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To: koan who wrote (95782)3/26/2009 10:37:45 PM
From: Sunny Jim6 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
<<The middle class needs well paying jobs and that is and should be the goal. Unions helped tremendously to get well paying jobs; and control the robber barrons.>>

The best paying jobs in my lifetime have been in high technology companies. Unions have struggled to organize them but without much success. On a relative basis, industries like the auto industry and the steel industry have had great paying jobs relative to the skills required compared to high tech. We can thank the unions for that in your opinion. There seems to be a different mindset of both workers and managers in steel and autos versus high tech. In the former, both management and workers are protective of status quo and they fight over getting more without a commensurate added contribution to the enterprise. In high tech both management and workers have always had to innovate and develop or they get left behind. And now with globalization, even skilled technology jobs get outsourced since there are equally bright people in lesser developed countries that do the jobs for substantially less than in the US. With our higher cost of living which includes all of our social costs, we simply can't compete in the big picture with the emerging countries that don't have these costs. That's simply a fact of life in the 21st century. Increased unionization in the United States will not change this fact. The best solution would be for the unions help level the playing field and get on the stick and unionize the developing countries like India and China. Good luck there! <G>



To: koan who wrote (95782)3/26/2009 11:09:58 PM
From: Jimh068  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
From what I have read lately, If you can't create good jobs for the middle class,

then just get rid of the middle class. There are always solutions.