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To: Spekulatius who wrote (33999)4/1/2009 1:59:13 AM
From: peter michaelson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78778
 
Spekulatius:

Can you point me to the details you used in determining the 9.5% cap rate, please? Or perhaps you saw that number reported.

There is some gray area in calculating a cap rate. Perhaps substantial known vacancies are on the horizon. I wonder how real 9.5% is. In any case, it doesn't shock me.



To: Spekulatius who wrote (33999)4/1/2009 2:15:44 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78778
 
re "REITS. 50% off sale for the Boston Hancock Tower."

What seems astonishing and a feat of brilliance to me is that the partners seemingly had only to put up $20M dollars. For this they were able to acquire THE primo building 85% leased. (Apparently in total they spent more than that because they bought up the mezzanine debt which apparently allowed them to control the foreclosure bidding.) If this property appreciates even 10 percent over the next three years (from the $600M purchase price), these guys will get maybe a triple just in capital appreciation alone on their very small (relatively) cash buy.



To: Spekulatius who wrote (33999)4/1/2009 8:54:13 AM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris1 Recommendation  Respond to of 78778
 
REIT with 50% leverage at the peak would be worthless in case it would liquidate now.

That's the key part of the phrase isn't it? ;)