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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (108057)4/9/2009 11:31:16 AM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 541344
 
The religious refuse to accept the coexistence of those they condemn as wrong yet they demand total respect for their views and lifestyles because they are rooted in a divine message.

The holes in that POV are so obvious, that's why religious groups reaching out to impose their right/wrong views on others aren't well received much of the time. "Obey our dictates but don't tell us what to do!"



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (108057)4/9/2009 11:45:00 AM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541344
 
Any violence is despicable, I will AMEN that one.

the religious don't hate gays

I agree with that in theory, but I don't really buy the oft-repeated refrain of hate the sin, love the sinner. When actions are taken that are hurtful and diminish others for who they are, that is hate- not only of their "sin", but toward them. It will be wonderful when science can definitively say that there is no choice involved in gayness, although I suppose that won't change the hardcore religious belief that it's still wrong or sick.

Again, I have no problem with a church having its own peculiar beliefs. And if they are, as you say, Americans assembling, fine. But when they fund and unite as a church, rightly or wrongly, they become a larger target.