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To: greenspirit who wrote (108490)4/12/2009 10:01:09 PM
From: ChinuSFO  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541561
 
Yes Micheal, we need a President who feels comfortable around everybody yet gets his "mission accomplished", like he did today with the pirate situation. Cool, calm and collective. And this is what the right wing newspaper in Australia (owned by the same man who is Hannity's big boss) opines about Obama.
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Not a second Jimmy Carter
Stephen Morris | April 08, 2009
Article from: The Australian

...excerpt

The multiple problems threatening the West today seem overwhelming. However, the US is led by a man of exceptional intelligence, political sophistication and serenity. Obama is a man who listens to an array of opinions before making policy decisions and, one hopes, is a man who learns from experience.

read the entire item at theaustralian.news.com.au



To: greenspirit who wrote (108490)4/12/2009 10:25:10 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 541561
 
Michael, do you know how many, e.g., Catholics sit in church every Sunday and don't subscribe to many of the teachings of the Church (for instance, birth control and abortion to name two of the most controversial)?

You have seen clips of a few of Wright's rants over 20 years. You know next to nothing about the person himself, other than a few controversial sermons he gave, know nothing of what he actually did over that time, what he said and how he acted when he wasn't performing at the church. Or, for that matter, even the context in which those rants took place. You don't even really know what Obama's real relationship to Wright was.

You "assume" what you want to assume. My assumption is that your assumption bears little relation to the truth. Obama has a foot in both the white and the black world. He is clearly a person who has tried to come to terms with both. His detachment and cerebral nature is one of the outcomes of that attempt. He can hear both narratives, can hear the pain and the fear and the hope of both. Wright comes out of Jim Crow and all of the frustration (to use a polite word) that came out of that wintry season, the child of slavery and hate. Obama clearly felt a need to understand that perspective. It doesn't mean that he mirrored it, that he made it his own in any simple way. There is nothing simple about the man. He is, to paraphrase a teacher of mine about his own mixed heritage, the "hyphen" between African-American, and is doing what he can to really end of the legacy of slavery and the split and lack of comprehension between the black and white cultures, among other things.

I wish him well. He has a numerous complex and perhaps intractable problems to deal with.



To: greenspirit who wrote (108490)4/12/2009 10:58:56 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Respond to of 541561
 
<<<Put the figure Obama aside for a moment; a person is your personal mentor, close friend and Pastor for 20 years. You go and listen to hundreds of his sermons - during all that time he doesn't express the radical worldview he holds, yet he's comfortable enough with them to rant at hundreds of strangers from the alter about them, over and over? >>>

I was a Hillary supporter at the time that the Rev Wright issue first came up. I felt the same way you did only in that I thought Obama had some explaining to do that could jeopardize our (democrats) chances in the general elections. However, I never ever thought that Obama had bought into Rev Wrights worldview.

Obama has completely bought into the Harvard Law School methodology for drilling down to the nuts and bolts of any issue. He was also a University of Chicago Law School professor. Obama is not an ideologue. He is not afraid to discuss any issue with anyone. He will sit down with anyone including conservatives (like Judd Gregg) and try to work with them. He does not have to agree with them.