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To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/15/2009 9:09:29 PM
From: KLP7 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793738
 
Good for you LB! You will knock the socks off the opposing folks (those who like all the spending) and with that speech, you should wake the rest of the folks up to the new reality......

Loved your comment about the paper of Janet Napolitano at Homeland Security! And I truly hope the rest of are both furious and sickened by it as well. If I were making the rules, she would be fired for such a paper....she is inciting people that think like she does against innocent people... If she had said at the very least "American extremists of any kind" we probably could have understood it better.

But no....always the right wing. Has she never watched the thousands of protesters before? Has she heard of ANSWER, ACT, MoveOn, and all the others? She is a waste of skin, and a total waste of taxpayers money.



To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/15/2009 10:02:13 PM
From: Nadine Carroll2 Recommendations  Respond to of 793738
 
You rock, Bill!

Here's a photo from today's Montpelier tea party. There were about 500 people there:




To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/15/2009 10:04:44 PM
From: MrLucky  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793738
 
LB, Nicely done. ML



To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/16/2009 12:16:34 AM
From: Hank Scorpio  Respond to of 793738
 
That was superb. One of the best posts I have read in the past 15 years.



To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/16/2009 2:20:57 AM
From: unclewest9 Recommendations  Respond to of 793738
 
Hello, fellow terrorists! Never thought I would be called that. But we have the Liberal Elites scared with these tea parties and yesterday Janet Napolitano at Homeland Security issued a nine page white paper saying that anybody who disagreed with Obama was a right wing extremist. And out of that group was the people who would become right wing terrorists. I didn't know you people were planning to bomb Aloha Tower!

Outstanding speech.

Napolitano's attitude is a direct result of Obama's scorn for and shunning of American troops and combat veterans. It goes to the core reason for skipping the MOH Inauguration party and avoiding troops (except for contrived photo ops) during visits to forward combat areas.

Your bomb Aloha Tower comment really resonates. Scorn includes both anger and distrust. Napolitano's DHS piece confirms the scorn to be fear based. These people are afraid of their own soldiers.

I can only surmise the administration's hidden agendas must be so bad even they fear the consequences.



To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/16/2009 3:22:58 AM
From: Neeka1 Recommendation  Respond to of 793738
 
A very old and frail gentlemen told me he has to live within his means and doesn't borrow to finance his whims. He said all he wanted was for the bureaucrats to do the same thing. That we can't borrow our way out of debt.

Truer words were never spoken.

Excellent speech Bill....!

Finally, we are scared, pure and simple, at the vast amount of government spending. If we can spend our way into prosperity, why are we having a recession now after years of defict spending?



To: LindyBill who wrote (301167)4/17/2009 1:41:07 AM
From: Cogito2 Recommendations  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 793738
 
April 16, 2009

ABOUT THAT DHS REPORT.... The right's response to a DHS report on radical, potentially violent, right-wing extremists has been quite intense, for reasons that have not stood up well to scrutiny. But the more details emerge, the more it seems Republicans who were outraged by the report didn't think this one through,

For one thing, DHS produced a similar report on radical, potentially violent, left-wing extremists. For another, the FBI published a similar report about the far-right fringe and potential security threats in 2008, and no one seemed to raise an eyebrow.

But perhaps most importantly, if the DHS report is evidence of some kind of nefarious White House agenda, it seems Obama's Republican detractors are complaining about the wrong White House.

The report on right wing groups, it turns out, was prepared by the Extremism and Radicalization Branch of DHS' Homeland Environment and Threat Analysis Division. That Division falls under the purview of the Under Secretary For Intelligence & Analysis -- or, in this case, the Acting Under Secretary For Intelligence & Analysis Roger Mackin, who was appointed on September 10, 2008 by noted left wing partisan George W. Bush.

Yep, the report about right-wing extremists that have Republicans worked up was, in fact, requested and prepared by Bush administration officials, an inconvenient fact that might undermine this week's talking points a bit.

On a related note, there seems to be specific concerns about criticism of U.S. servicemen and women. House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told reporters yesterday, "To characterize men and women returning home after defending our country as potential terrorists is offensive and unacceptable."

It's probably worth re-emphasizing, then, that the point of the law-enforcement report wasn't that veterans are right-wing extremists, but rather, that right-wing extremists might target veterans for recruitment. Indeed, Bush's Justice Department prepared a similar report in 2008 titled, "White Supremacist Recruitment of Military Personnel Since 9/11," which found that while veterans don't make up a large percentage of "white supremacist extremists," they have sometimes taken leadership roles in the movement.

Oddly enough, when this report was distributed to law-enforcement officials last year, Boehner and Republicans didn't say a word. It's almost as if their goal is to score cheap political points off a misunderstood DHS report, without concern for the facts.

For what it's worth, the Republican uproar drew the attention of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who responded yesterday in a written statement: "Let me be very clear: we monitor the risks of violent extremism taking root here in the United States. We don't have the luxury of focusing our efforts on one group; we must protect the country from terrorism whether foreign or homegrown, and regardless of the ideology that motivates its violence."

—Steve Benen 9:25 AM

washingtonmonthly.com