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To: i-node who wrote (473817)4/21/2009 3:23:39 PM
From: J_F_Shepard1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576321
 
Weren't you the guy who said waterboarding wasn't torture and it was only done 2-3 times for a few seconds each time????

nytimes.com

"April 20, 2009
Waterboarding Used 266 Times on 2 Suspects
By SCOTT SHANE

C.I.A. interrogators used waterboarding, the near-drowning technique that top Obama administration officials have described as illegal torture, 266 times on two key prisoners from Al Qaeda, far more than had been previously reported.

The C.I.A. officers used waterboarding at least 83 times in August 2002 against Abu Zubaydah, according to a 2005 Justice Department legal memorandum. Abu Zubaydah has been described as a Qaeda operative.

A former C.I.A. officer, John Kiriakou, told ABC News and other news media organizations in 2007 that Abu Zubaydah had undergone waterboarding for only 35 seconds before agreeing to tell everything he knew.

The 2005 memo also says that the C.I.A. used waterboarding 183 times in March 2003 against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described planner of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The New York Times reported in 2007 that Mr. Mohammed had been barraged more than 100 times with harsh interrogation methods, causing C.I.A. officers to worry that they might have crossed legal limits and to halt his questioning. But the precise number and the exact nature of the interrogation method was not previously known.

The release of the numbers is likely to become part of the debate about the morality and efficacy of interrogation methods that the Justice Department under the Bush administration declared legal even though the United States had historically treated them as torture. "



To: i-node who wrote (473817)4/21/2009 5:14:02 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576321
 
which makes terrorist recruiting easier

Can you provide ANY evidence this is true?


Yup. Since we started to torture, has the number of global terrorists diminished or grown? If you pick the second one, you would be right. At the current time, terrorist recruiting is one of the few growth industries in the world.