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To: longnshort who wrote (11839)4/24/2009 10:32:00 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Respond to of 103300
 
Re: "agreement in principle ...pensions and retiree health care benefits would be protected as a condition of the bankruptcy filing...."

Yes, I saw that this morning, shorty....

But the article gives no details.

Question is: "protected" HOW????????

(It does NOT SAY 'paid in full by government' or anything of that sort which is what you were alleging. What it is talking about is the hierarchy of claims in connection to a chapter 11 style bankruptcy filing. All this could be indicating is a relatively high placement for the pension obligations vs. the company assets in bankruptcy organization --- which might not be anything new anyway, as pension obligations *already* have high placement in bankruptcy under US law.)



To: longnshort who wrote (11839)4/24/2009 11:42:51 AM
From: Wayners  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 103300
 
Why doesn't Chrysler do their own bankruptcy filing? This sounds really fishy to me. In addition to nationalizing every major bank are they going to nationalize every automaker too? Do we live in Cuba now? The Goverment now 100% controls the economy through credit. This is NOT the American way.



To: longnshort who wrote (11839)4/24/2009 1:01:37 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
Retiree health and pension claims are senior to debt anyway, I believe.

So they'll come high in line in a bankruptcy (after tax obligations and vendor liens though).

That's not unusual. Contractual obligations to employees are just as valid as contractual obligations to bondholders and anyone else in a bankruptcy setting.