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To: i-node who wrote (199724)	5/2/2009 7:26:26 PM
From: NOW	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

what a load of absolute nonsense. there is no objective evidence whatsoever to judge the american health care system the best. america excels at certain specialty procedures for sure. but on the whole, the evidence suggests the the system, while costing 2 trillion dollars a year and multiples of most other nations systems, lags far behind in performance and outcomes anyone who says otherwise simply is ignorant of the copious research showing this

To: i-node who wrote (199724)	5/2/2009 7:59:03 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

While I agree with much of what you said, the following is incorrect: American health care is expensive for two basic reasons: a) It is the best in the world, and b) American health care subsidizes the rest of the world's health care because they can't pay for it on their own. You need to add: c) Most medical jobs pay very well. d) There is significant costs associated with malpractice and the USA legal system. e) There is a very inefficient payment system with very high effective overhead. These three are major issues, indeed, more major I think in terms of $ than the two you listed. I happen to think they have almost nothing to do with trying to switch the system to a government run monopoly, which is what lots of people think should happen, and I'm afraid O might have tendencies that way as well. They should instead be dealt with directly. But your main point remains correct: Many Americans seem to think that top notch health care is a "right" and they should be free to consume as much of it as they "need" or "want". What they neglect to point out when looking at the socialised systems is that those systems effectively ration care, thus restricting expenses. The example I like to use is consider what would happen to total cost of transportation in the USA if instead of buying our own cars with money we earn, we instead bought "transportation insurance" which then paid for our car whenever we had need of a new one. When you go to get your new car, of course you want the best, why would you choose a cheap and dangerous model. Oops, there goes cost containment. Think of all the games that would then develop between auto manufacturers, insurance providers, and the consuming public. Heck, after awhile, why not switch to a single payer, and let the government buy our new cars for us. After all, surely it is every American's "right" to have a new car, and clearly, the government would be the best source of providing that right! LOL!

To: i-node who wrote (199724)	5/2/2009 9:26:19 PM
From: NOW	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

<American health care is expensive for two basic reasons: a) It is the best in the world, and b) American health care subsidizes the rest of the world's health care because they can't pay for it on their own.> why do you waste your time commenting on something you clearly know absolutely NOTHING about? That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read.

To: i-node who wrote (199724)	5/3/2009 1:11:09 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

<the liberal lie that American health care is bad> Please get back to me when you are fired and lose your coverage and tell me if your views have changed.