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To: combjelly who wrote (481479)	5/17/2009 1:23:25 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575619

Now they didn't go into detail, but I suspect a pour is more than a few tablespoons. Probably enough to keep the victim from breathing the maximum allotted time. For ease of calculation, say a minute. That means that KSM was subjected to over 3 hours of this spread out over a few months. These "pours" were overseen by a physician. I suspect they don't exceed a few seconds each.

To: combjelly who wrote (481479)	5/17/2009 2:08:53 PM
From: bentway	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575619

"Number 2, that aide to Powell who is claiming that torture was used to get confession od Saddam-AQ links. Sadly, this makes sense, torture is real good at false confessions, that is its historical use." That's the allegation, by a high-ranking REPUBLICAN official, that just screams for investigation. Forget inarticulate Nancy Pelosi! It would also explain why "undisclosed location" Cheney is suddenly all over Fox News and elsewhere. If true (why would Wilkerson LIE about it?), it means foreign combatants were TORTURED in order to elicit false confessions to be used to con congress and the American people into supporting the Iraq invasion. Certainly a HIGH crime. Obama should just bow to the inevitable and get everything he wants done while no one is looking.

To: combjelly who wrote (481479)	5/17/2009 11:59:32 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575619

It makes you wonder what he found out after he got in office. I suspect the torture thing is the tip of the iceberg. The GQ article I posted earlier hints at the war benefitting the president's/VP's/ole Rummie's friends. Now we knew that in theory but what money passed whose hands......when the details start coming out, it ain't going to be a very pretty picture. And then there is Katrina and Rita. If the Rs thought they were in trouble before, once this sh*t hits the fan, they may have to decamp for another country and start over.