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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: koan who wrote (24545)	5/17/2009 6:15:30 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

You say I have no solutions, but I have. You are unable to understand because you are selfish, lack logic brain wiring [so you say]. Here are some ideas for you to adopt: Libertarian constitution Tradable citizenship Voting our own dollars, not OPM User pays such as GPS congestion based road tolls. That's enough to overload you for now. You like taxes because you are a recipient of them. Of course you vote for more of them. Mqurice

To: koan who wrote (24545)	5/19/2009 11:21:34 AM
From: R2O	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

I request some clarification. 1.And what from of government would you propsoe that is better than democracy? Where in the world do you find 'democracies'? I live in the US and we have a republic. Democracies devolve into mob rule, don't they? Which countries have democracies? 2.And I do pay my taxes willingly and will usually vote for tax increases as the need is usually valid. That you need to vote means that others disagree. Your vote is a vote to take from unwilling others. Taxes are simply the minimum amount you are required to pay. Why do you not volunteer to pay more? It's simple. No vote required. Why do we hear rich folks like Buffet whine about how he thinks he should pay more and yet he never does? Every supporter of higher taxes I have spoken with refuses to voluntarily contribute. If they can't get OPM they want no part of it. Why is that? Why do you, personally, in full control of your own funds and who believes in the valid need, not just send in your check? 3. And I would vote for a large increase in gas taxes today. Vote for, but not pay? Just send in your check. No vote required. Your local pols will know how to get it credited to the correct accounts. Right this minute! Do not delay. No need to send your money to a selfish individual. No need to wait for a vote. Take charge of your life. Send in that check! Alas, because it doesn't involve OPM, you will not. Talk about selfish! I really want to know what logic one uses to NOT volunteer money that you wish to force others to pay. R2O