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To: one_less who wrote (482296)5/20/2009 1:07:04 PM
From: Steve Dietrich  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577920
 
The question remains Steve, and the implications don't change. Either there is a beginning or there is an on going eternity.

Even this isn't true. In string theory there is both a beginning and on going eternity. Same with the expanding-collapsing universe model. And with time being a property of our universe, it doesn't make any sense to talk about time outside of our universe.

Your attempt to simplify the universe to suit your philosophical argument only illustrates your simpleminded intellectual laziness.

You said, "However, that there was nothing, then a moment later an expanding universe, is not argued much."

That's clearly false for so many reasons. (A singularity is not nothing, Hawking has a theory of the Big Bang that does not require a singularity, string theory posits many universes, we may be the result of a collapsed universe, etc.)

When you start with a bold, simple, false statement. There's no point in going any further. Your obviously engaging in sophistry.

SD



To: one_less who wrote (482296)5/20/2009 1:13:18 PM
From: Steve Dietrich1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577920
 
The fact is, the universe is here, it is thick with reason, purpose

Reason and purpose are evolved human traits that have helped us survive.

Projecting human qualities onto inanimate objects is called anthropomorphism, another evolved human trait that, though it helps us to succeed, tells us nothing about the reality of the universe...

SD