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To: RetiredNow who wrote (54709)	5/20/2009 6:19:52 PM
From: koan	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

>>OK. Doing something about social security is where the GOP has been more creative. I think that the Dems have their head in the sand on that one. The social security entitlement obligations for the citizens in the workforce today when combined with Medicare stand at over $56 trillion over and above what's allegedly in the trust fund. Who the hell is going to pay for that?<< The Republicans just had 6 years of absolute control. The could have done whatever they wanted. What did they do??

To: RetiredNow who wrote (54709)	5/20/2009 6:33:33 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

>> To help put things in perspective, the Peterson Foundation calculated the federal government accumulated $56.4 trillion in total liabilities and unfunded promises for Medicare and Social Security as of September 30, 2008. The numbers used to calculate this figure come directly from the audited financial statements of the U.S. government. If $56.4 trillion in financial commitments is too big a number to digest, think of it as $483,000 per American household, or $184,000 for every man, woman and child in the country.<< Once again mindmeld, the Republican's talk a good talk, but what did they do? Nothing, nothing at all. Obama will try to do something watch. He has ideas. Social security is pretty easily fixable, it is medicare which is tough and universal health care, preferably with single payer makes the most sens to me. But anyone can talk a good game, but the Republcians have no idea what to do that is practical. E.g. name one good thing bush actually "accomplished" that was tough! He spent 5 trillion and doubled our debt by giving all of Clintons surpluses and your kids money to his rich friends. That is all Bush did. Steal as much money from the middle class and give it to his rich frends. That was the very fist thing he did when he was elected and all he was interted in doing. That is the thesis of his crime and presidency. And the entire Republician party was complicit in his thievery.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (54709)	5/21/2009 3:37:41 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

I wonder why Cheney continues to get the attention. Obama needs to shut him up by agreeing to either an independent prosecutor or the Truth Commission. He is trying to avoid the distraction of an enquiry, but if Cneye is hell bent on disruption then order him to testify under oath and torture him mentally during the questioning. Doing so would close the final chapter of the Bush era. ================================ Cheney defends waterboarding, says Guantanamo prison essential By Mark Silva May 22, 2009 Reporting from Washington -- Former Vice President Dick Cheney, delivering a forceful defense of the Bush administration's interrogations of suspected terrorists and stern criticism of the Obama administration, maintained today that the CIA never tortured anyone and kept the United States safe from an attack potentially worse than the terrorism of Sept. 11, 2001. The waterboarding employed in the questioning of a few captured terrorists was essential to gleaning as much information about Al Qaeda's intentions as quickly as possible in the aftermath of the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon, the former vice president said in a public address today. ...contd at latimes.com