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To: Dale Baker who wrote (112653)	6/4/2009 11:43:44 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541778

I think I've said this before, but you and most people who haven't read the Bible make this argument. THe problem is all of you assume more complexity than there is. Yes, the OT is a maze of information one could study forever, but even there the basic rules of moral behavior are identified. The NT though is very straightforward and unequivocal no matter what the translation is. The King James Version with it's archaic but poetic language or all the way down to some that read like fifth grade readers. Every verse is translated with the same basic meaning. Also, one can pretty much just read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and know what Christ identified as being pleasing to God and disappointing to God. Sometimes something minor pops up that requires knowing more about Jewish culture in that period, but one can put in a verse to any of several different Bible websites and quickly get the needed info. A person doesn't even need be a member of a church. Anyone can read those four books of the Bible on their computer and google up interpretations of scripture or scriptural passage. It's no harder than researching a couple of stock ideas. As for the Christ's Hospital in the video, owned by the United Church of Christ and the Reformed Lutheran Church, I have no idea what kind of mental machinations got the officials of these churches to the point of even being officially pro-choice much less allowing infanticide to take place in their facility. If there is a God and some kind of judgment passed, this is a situation that falls into "double damnation". Christ went into detail about what kind of behavior(s) would bring this about, but generally it refers to when someone acting in a church or religious capacity leads someone else into sin. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it moral. The video clip saddened me knowing that historically churches have been instrumental in overturning unjust, immoral or exploitative laws. Slavery, child labor, hospital care for the indigent, debtor prisons to name a few. That's a proud history and how we "progressed" in this country to a stage in which two well-established denominations could espouse abortion and actually make money off of it is surreal. The money part of it alone sets off a blizzard of scriptures rattling through my mind. I know you will disagree but those are the facts with how religion is practiced by modern society. And as time goes on, the fragmentation and diversity are likely to increase. The big four churches you mention will have small roles in most major US population centers, much as they do today outside their pockets of strong support. No, I don't disagree. That is exactly how it will unfold. The process is well underway. The difference is that you are convinced society as a whole will be better off for it, and I am not.