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To: one_less who wrote (55422)	6/5/2009 11:25:33 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Speaking as a retired torturer mice elf, there is torture and there is torture. I used to put tubes into the trachea via the nose or mouth or an endotracheal tube, and vacuum mucus out of lungs. Sometimes with lavage; instilling saline to loosen things up; you know....waterboarding.. That's torture; especially in a conscious patient. Putting in feeding tubes is also torture. Neither procedure requires the presence of a doc. Suctioning doesn't require a nurse, unless assistance is needed. Regular soldiers can do it; medics, RTs, LVNs. Gasric lavage, emptying the belly for poisoning or overdose cases, is torture; make them swallow charcoal, or put it downthru a tube, and suck it back out. books.google.com It's all good, tho; we kick visitors out of the room first, and we give patients drugs so they don't remember what we do to them.