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To: E. Charters who wrote (7269)	6/8/2009 3:31:59 PM
From: Stan	Respond to of 17090

Doctors are already overworked as crisis managers. They leave prevention up to the individual. I know someone who's been type II since teenage life (over 40 years now). He's always had a poor diet compounded by so many readily available bad choices. He is overweight by about 60 lbs. He has been overweight since he was a little kid. The doctor told him that if he could get under 175 he could manage without the needle. He has never reached that goal because his eating habits are so ingrained. When he gets low blood sugar he becomes ravenous and will fill up on sweets or carbs. It's a terrible cycle. He has neuropathy in his feet and nearly lost one a few years ago.

To: E. Charters who wrote (7269)	6/10/2009 10:11:14 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 17090

A friend of mine just had a triple by-pass and is recovering in fair. It is difficult to try to inform people in life threatening situations when the advice you would give is contrary to those responsible by social contract, etc. for sustaining life. So I could only speak about the benefits of proper diet and exercise (later) and that there were some excellent books from doctors having success with a less medicated approach, etc. etc. etc. I thought about mentioning some true statistics regarding surgery and consequences longer term but I bit my tongue, considering that the information would do more harm than good. Most people really are indoctrinated with a "faith" in society and in mainstream medicine which often kills. And one is reluctant to intrude too much on this misplaced trust because it is doubtful that advice heard is advice truly followed and one must think that imperfect advice trusted and followed (Honey, it is time for your pills) is better than advice heard and avoided ( I almost walked a mile; I went into the butcher shop and back to the car). In the end we are responsible for our own choices.