To: LLCF who wrote (2654 ) 6/19/2009 5:25:56 PM From: Greg or e Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 "You want a "label" which you seem to have clear in YOUR mind, but IMHO needs much clarification before any discussion starts." Fair enough but if you keep asking for clarification there comes a point where you seem to be using a Clintonian dodge in an effort to avoid something that is making you uncomfortable or do not want to acknowledge. I don't know why it's so hard for a Roman Catholic to admit that there is a personal God who Created the universe? Anyway, There are young earth, literal six day creationists and there are old earth, long day/epoch creationists. I suppose there are some other sub groups as well. Even though the groups may differ on the timing, manner and speed that God created: they all agree that He did. Both groups are rightly and properly called Creationists. Now I realize that you probably only have one group in mind for the "wacko" label that you are so fond of but even your own sources acknowledge that the group called creationists is much wider than that. "I have made the point several times on this blog that creationists (among whom I squarely classify so-called intelligent design proponents )..." rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com ...................................... "What is a 'personal' god?" Catholicism has always held that God (with a capital G btw) is a personal (actually tri-personal) being. A personal God is one that is self aware, rational, volitional, has emotions, and is able to act. Alvin Plantinga on God and Personhood "God acts just by willing: he wills that things be a certain way, and they are that way. (God said "Let there be light"; and there was light."afterall.net My point is very simple. If you believe that there is a Creator then you are by definition some kind of Creationist. No big deal and certainly nothing you need to be ashamed of.