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To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (57407)	7/2/2009 12:26:29 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Cultural change is going into overdrive. Thank god. So I am hoping we do not need to wait two hundred years for the ME to catch up with western democracy. It is my understanding the kdis in Iran barely talk to their parents. The kids are into western democracy, but it is the old uneducated conservative religous farts that have the power. LIke they did here until a few months ago. I have the mental picture of Chuck Grassly in my mind-lol. >> Christianity has a few hundred years on Islam, and it was only a few hundred years ago that the power of the church & kings started to be broken. And Rome didn't go down easy. Hundreds of thousands died. Entire communities wiped out and/or exiled. One of the interesting things re Iran is the break between leading religious figures and even the beginning notion of separation of church and state. And don't forget Indonesia.<<

To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (57407)	7/2/2009 12:31:03 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

choose, my point is that in Islam the state is ingrained in the religion by way of the sharia. There is no such thing in Christianity, is it? About Indonesia, the Arabs, who are Islamic do not consider the Muslims from outside Arab lands as true Muslims because they do not speak Arabic and hence cannot read the Koran in its original language. If we think about what happened to the Muslims in Bosnia during the Balkan war. The Arab nations did not come together to defend them.