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To: cosmicforce who wrote (115622)7/16/2009 8:02:36 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541735
 
:-)
All the denier sites are like that.

I looked up another one a few weeks ago. One poor guy who never published anything and whose oil company sponsor had even cut him off. It was sad.



To: cosmicforce who wrote (115622)7/16/2009 10:10:28 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541735
 
For a small place he's produced some interesting studies, which tossed Mann's widely used Hockey Stick temp chart on its ears.

The much-vaunted "hockey stick diagram" became famous a few years ago when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) used it to argue that the "1990s were the warmest decade in the millennium and 1998 the warmest year". You still see people using it today.

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Coincidently, he just posted on the subject of clouds in this blog entry.

Boundary Layer Clouds:
IPCC Bowdlerizes Bony
by Steve McIntyre on July 15th, 2009

As we've discussed before (and is well known), clouds are the greatest source of uncertainty in climate sensitivity. Low-level ("boundary layer") tropical clouds have been shown to be the largest source of inter-model difference among GCMs. Clouds have been known to be problematic for GCMs since at least the Charney Report in 1979. Given the importance of the topic for GCMs, one would have thought that AR4 would have devoted at least a chapter to the single of issue of clouds, with perhaps one-third of that chapter devoted to the apparently thorny issue of boundary layer tropical clouds.

This is what an engineering study would do - identify the most critical areas of uncertainty and closely examine all the issues related to the critical uncertainty. Unfortunately, that's not how IPCC does things. Instead, clouds are treated in one subsection of chapter 8 and boundary layer clouds in one paragraph.

Interestingly, the language in IPCC AR4 is (using the terminology of climate science) "remarkably similar" to Bony et al (J Clim 2006) url , with the differences as interesting as the similarities. It seems to me that each language change from Bony to IPCC had the effect of papering over or softening the appearance of problems or contradictions, rather than clearly drawing the issues to the attention of the public. (Note - Bony was a lead author of the chapter - another instance of IPCC authors reviewing their own work.)

AR4

Boundary-layer clouds have a strong impact on the net radiation budget (e.g., Harrison et al., 1990; Hartmann et al., 1992) and cover a large fraction of the global ocean (e.g., Norris, 1998a,b). Understanding how they may change in a perturbed climate is thus a vital part of the cloud feedback problem. The observed relationship between low-level cloud amount and a particular measure of lower tropospheric stability (Klein and Hartmann, 1993), which has been used in some simple climate models and in some GCMs’ parametrizations of boundary layer cloud amount (e.g., CCSM3, FGOALS), led to the suggestion that a global climate warming might be associated with an increased low-level cloud cover, which would produce a negative cloud feedback (e.g., Miller, 1997; Zhang, 2004). However, variants of the lower-tropospheric stability measure, which may predict boundary-layer cloud amount as well as the Klein and Hartmann (1993) measure, would not necessarily predict an increase in low-level clouds in a warmer climate (e.g., Williams et al., 2006). Moreover, observations indicate that in regions covered by low-level clouds, the cloud optical depth decreases and the SW CRF weakens as temperature rises (Tselioudis and Rossow, 1994; Greenwald et al., 1995; Bony et al., 1997; Del Genio and Wolf, 2000; Bony and Dufresne, 2005), but the different factors that may explain these observations are not well established. Therefore, understanding of the physical processes that control the response of boundary-layer clouds and their radiative properties to a change in climate remains very limited.
Bony et al 2006

Boundary layer clouds have a strongly negative CRF (Harrison et al. 1990; Hartmann et al. 1992) and cover a very large fraction of the area of the Tropics (e.g., Norris 1998b). Understanding how they may change in a perturbed climate therefore constitutes a vital part of the cloud feedback problem. Unfortunately, our understanding of the physical processes that control boundary layer clouds and their radiative properties is currently very limited.

It has been argued based on the Clausius–Clapeyron formula that in a warmer climate, water clouds of a given thickness would hold more water and have a higher albedo (Somerville and Remer 1984; Betts and Harshvardhan 1987). But the analysis of satellite observations show evidence of decreasing cloud optical depth and liquid water path with temperature in low latitude boundary layer clouds (Tselioudis and Rossow 1994; Greenwald et al. 1995; Bony et al. 1997). This may be due to the confounding effect of many physical processes, such as increases with temperature in precipitation efficiency or decreases with temperature in cloud physical extent (Tselioudis et al. 1998; Del Genio and Wolf 2000).

Klein and Hartmann (1993) showed an empirical correlation between mean boundary layer cloud cover and lower-tropospheric stability (defined in their study as the difference of 700-hPa and near-surface potential temperature). When imposed in simple two-box models of the tropical climate (Miller 1997; Clement and Seager 1999; Larson et al. 1999) or into some GCMs’ parameterizations of boundary layer cloud amount [e.g., in the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) Community Climate System Model verion 3 (CCSM3)], this empirical correlation leads to a substantial increase in low cloud cover in a warmer climate driven by the larger stratification of warmer moist adiabats across the Tropics, and produces a strong negative feedback. However variants of lower-tropospheric stability that may predict boundary layer cloud cover just as well as the Klein and Hartmann (1993) parameterization, would not necessarily predict an increase in boundary layer cloud in a warmer climate (e.g., Williams et al. 2006 – Clim Dyn; Wood and Bretherton 2006 – J Clim).

The boundary layer cloud amount is strongly related to the cloud types present, which depend on many synoptic-and planetary-scale factors (Klein 1997; Norris 1998a; Norris and Klein 2000). Factors such as changes in the vigor of shallow convection, possible precipitation processes, and changes in capping inversion height and cloud thickness can outweigh the effect of static stability. These factors depend on local physical processes but also on remote influences, such as the effect of changing deep convective activity on the free tropospheric humidity of subsidence regions (Miller 1997; Larson et al. 1999; Kelly and Randall 2001). Evidence from observations, large-eddy simulation models, or climate models for the role of these different factors in cloud feedbacks is currently very limited.
The similarities are self evident. Now let's look at the differences.

Bony et al said that boundary layer clouds had "strongly negative CRF" (Cloud Radiative Forcing), which IPCC watered down to "strong impact". I guess that the idea of "strongly negative" feedback was too salacious for the IPCC audience

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