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To: Rambi who wrote (115907)7/20/2009 11:46:52 AM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541961
 
Broder says: Time to hit "reset" on Obamacare. If Obamacare has lost David Broder, it has lost the moderate Democrats

What has been lost in the health care discussion/debate is .....what is broken. What are we trying to fix. In the rush to get something, anything passed, Obama has lost the high road and I would argue he has lost his focus on what he is trying to accomplish.

What is broken; Some think it is the number of people covered - bull! What is broken is that we have the highest cost health care by far but fall to one of the lowest in the developed word when it comes to our health. IOW, we aren't getting what we pay for. Looks to me that the Obama plan makes this worse not better.



To: Rambi who wrote (115907)7/20/2009 1:00:22 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541961
 
I'm concerned about the who exclusion for preexisting conditions. People get moved from one carry to another for causes not of their own making. Insurance carriers use this opportunity to not cover any of the more common illnesses or conditions. What I would hate to see is a two tiered system where the US government got all the really sick people and the insurance companies cherry-picked the healthiest people at reduced cost.

I went without health care when I was twenty-something because for the minor stuff, I was covered by the student health department. For major stuff - I believed I had VA (which later turned out to not be the case due to an administrative change by the VA). Fortunately, I didn't lose that bet.



To: Rambi who wrote (115907)7/20/2009 2:03:03 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 541961
 
I agree with you.

If Obama is losing the centrists he needs to slow down and find a plan they can buy off one. The screaming edges will never be happy- right and left- and quite frankly I don't care what they think- but the middle needs to be satisfied.

So it would make me happy if the admin can back off this and take it slower until it has the support of people like you.



To: Rambi who wrote (115907)7/20/2009 2:40:56 PM
From: biotech_bull  Respond to of 541961
 
The problem with healthcare reform is it's such a monster that it creates two problems.

1. It needs wide-based support to pass - not gonna happen if it's dressed in ideological garb. May never happen till it becomes a dire emergency, and by then it maybe too late.

2. I'm not sure it can ever be done piecemeal and with restraint