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To: GST who wrote (212526)7/26/2009 1:12:21 AM
From: GalirayoRespond to of 306849
 
>> If doctors were mainly on salary, private health care would no doubt be more efficient than government run health care.<<

Hear ... Hear ...

But the Question I have is ...

Would that Eliminate the Annual Country Club Fee .. Hysterectomy Special ?

They Run Volume Specials on those and other highly successful surgeries at Certain Times of the Year.

It's like a Major Blow Out .. I mean Throw Out Sale.

Vasectomies are the Rage Now too ...

Those 2 encompass 100 % of we earthlings ... Like Gall Bladders. Those are designated for Mercedes payments though, I think.

New models arriving soon !!!!!

Congress will make Sure the NEW MODELS in Health Care ARRIVE from the way it looks.



To: GST who wrote (212526)7/26/2009 2:38:01 AM
From: Skeeter BugRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
>>Health care costs have been and will continue to soar so long as doctors are primarily paid according to the procedures they perform rather than being on salary.<<

isn't that how you pay for doctors?

>>There might be exceptions, but on the whole, the absurd cost of health care is the primary issue. HOW we pay is a matter of administrative efficiency. One could argue that private admin is better -- but that depends entirely on HOW doctors are paid.<<

GST, how to pay doctors is one of the points.

>>Private insurers are inefficient now precisely because of how much time the insurance companies have to spend trying to avoid paying for the excessive treatment plans created by doctors in their search for a profitable practice. If doctors were mainly on salary, private health care would no doubt be more efficient than government run health care.<<

private medicine is about profit. efficiencies go to the bottom line and the public is screwed.

>>As for the cost of expanding coverage to all Americans -- we will never be able to close the gap so long as we can't control costs<<

medicare does not control costs. this bill does not control costs.

>>-- and we can't control costs so long as doctors have an incentive to push the cost of care into the stratosphere. For profit insurance might not be much of a problem -- it pales in comparison with the problem of for profit doctors.<<

both are pretty bad. as is exotic end of life medical care and the litigious nature of our society.

the whole darwinian game is to bleed the public dry for personal benefit, right?

it seems the powerful are just winning the darwinian game and we just have failed to realize we are their prey.



To: GST who wrote (212526)7/26/2009 3:03:40 AM
From: NOWRespond to of 306849
 
umm, that is precisely what i meant. to be paid a salary is how one is paid ideally to reform the overproduction problem



To: GST who wrote (212526)7/26/2009 3:31:30 PM
From: damainmanRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
I'd love to see a system that would prevent surgeons from attempting bypass surgery on 90 year olds, but if you put them on salary wouldn't you have the opposite effect where the hard to diagnose/treat cases get handed off like hot potatoes?