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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (7898)	7/30/2009 10:38:18 AM
From: gg cox	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

siliconinvestor.com Another Canadian anecdote horror story,but the key part is the last 10 seconds ...if America adopted a single payer system as Canada, the good Canadian doctor worries that he would have no place to send Canadians for fast relief, as,, the American system would then be backed up with patients that are now largely ignored, without health insurance . So the thoughts of the well covered, monied elite,working with company coverage in America, is the status quo ..at all costs for they do not want the rabble in the door in front of them for costly procedures. Conclusion:If all citizens of any country are covered there will be horror stories a plenty,wait times a plenty, but what is required is a full measure of conscience as displayed by this guy.. en.wikipedia.org Population of Canada 33 million U.S.over 300 million China 1.3 Billion......easy to draw conclusions from the numbers.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (7898)	7/30/2009 3:22:52 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 42652

You trust those legislators who laugh at the idea of reading bills before they vote on them? Of course not. But the laughs of legislators are not the law of the land. What's in the bill becomes the law of the land. If it ain't in the bill, it can't be enforced so it doesn't matter in practice. I assure you that I am as skeptical about those folks as you are. But I am a rational person, which means among other things that I don't cringe at figments.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (7898)	7/30/2009 3:26:55 PM
From: Lane3	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

You trust those legislators who laugh at the idea of reading bills before they vote on them? Of course not. But the laughs of legislators are not the law of the land. What's in the bill becomes the law of the land. If it ain't in the bill, it can't be enforced so it doesn't matter in practice. I assure you that I am as skeptical about those folks as you are. Don't like them much, either. But I am a rational person, which means among other things that I don't cringe at figments. We can easily imagine worse cases. But until and unless we encounter them or can track a logical probable path to them, they are nightmares, not threats. Obama has been making references to people being better off to just "take the pain pill" instead of having these expensive operations. Do you really believe that there are no unnecessary surgeries going on? No surgeries that leave folks no better off or even worse off? Many procedures have been discredited in studies but are still performed. If we discouraged that, how is that a bad thing? Sure, you choose to interpret Obama's statement as a cavalier attitude toward pain as in "let's not set that broken leg but rather let him take pain pills." But that's a hyperbolic reaction.