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To: bentway who wrote (500580)	8/3/2009 10:41:37 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578444

The punishing four-year decline in U.S. auto sales may have reached a turning point this week Right. The government taking $3 Billion from the taxpayers to subsidize people who want to buy new cars is going to turn the auto industry around. Nevermind that the UAW still controls the industry and continues to suck out its life blood. The American public, and particularly the Left, are downright gullible.

To: bentway who wrote (500580)	8/3/2009 10:57:56 AM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1578444

why doesn't the gov just buy everyone a car ? Then the numbers will go way up

To: bentway who wrote (500580)	8/3/2009 12:04:40 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1578444

Anti-Birthers are Beginning to Worry George Joyce and Larrey Anderson Fear and trembling are brewing among the anti-birther brigade. For evidence look no further than a sad and confused polemic in the LA Times against conservative truth-seekers by leftist comedian Bill Maher. In setting out to attack legitimate public concern over such issues as Barack Obama's birth certificate and Senator John Kerry's earlier claims about his Vietnam War experience, Maher only deepens the growing American suspicion about the left's commitment to the truth. Even worse, Maher's pathetic tirade against conservatives never rises above an eighth-grade schoolyard tantrum, which should raise further concerns about the effects of drinking kool-aid on a person of otherwise normal intelligence. In short, although Maher tries to pose as a hip, erudite, and progressive mouthpiece of the left his essay raises disturbing questions about the state of the modern liberal mind. For example, Maher attempts to lampoon those who simply want to see Obama's original birth certificate: "And there's nothing anyone can do to convince these folks. You could hand them, in person, the original birth certificate and have a video of Obama emerging from the womb with Don Ho singing in the background ... and they still wouldn't believe it. Which raises the question: Why, in this country, is it always the religious right that won't take anything on faith?" Well, Bill, you've got an interesting theory here but for some reason you don't want to test it. The fact is that the original birth certificate has not been shown. Why? Maher, incredibly, goes on to blame the media for not being courageous enough in smothering the "lies" about John Kerry and the Vietnam War: "And once these stories get out there, they're hard to stamp out because our media do such a lousy job of speaking truth to stupid. Vietnam, Iraq and the Spanish-American War were all sold on lies that were unchallenged or even abetted by the media. Clinton got impeached and Kerry got destroyed in large part because the media didn't have the guts to say, 'This is nonsense.'" In the twisted calculations of Bill Maher, in other words, the mainstream media was pro-Vietnam war and anti-Kerry. Amazing. Maher tries to rally America's deluded scribes into embracing the "reality" of Obama's birth status by dismissing the reality and import of what scientists call "evidence:" "That's why it's so important that we the few, the proud, the reality-based attack this stuff before it has a chance to fester and spread. This isn't a case of Democrats versus Republicans. It's sentient beings versus the lizard people, and it is to them I offer this deal: I'll show you Obama's birth certificate when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." That's a deal Maher. You show us – we'll show you. Except Maher doesn't really mean it. All of his arguments in the LA Times piece are based on counterfactuals or on the situation in some "possible world" that is not this real world. In our real world the original birth certificate has not been made available to the public. But in Maher's pretend world it has. In his pretend world the birth certificate exists. So Maher has settled the dispute of Obama's eligibilty to be President … only if we live in Bill Maher's make-believe world. Does the birth certificate exist in our world? Who knows? After reading Maher's embarrassing diatribe one can only conclude that the left is worried – very worried. American Thinker Blog: Anti-Birthers are Beginning to Worry

To: bentway who wrote (500580)	8/3/2009 12:07:37 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1578444

Lou Dobbs Right on Obama Birth Certificate Monday, August 3, 2009 9:48 AM By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size The Associated Press is wrong and Lou Dobbs is right. This past weekend, the AP published a story entitled "CNN's Dobbs Under Fire for Hosting 'Birthers'". The AP began their highly critical story on Dobbs: "He's become a publicity nightmare for CNN, embarrassed his boss and hosted a show that seemed to contradict the network's 'no bias' brand." And what is Dobbs' "crime?" He has said on air that Obama should release his birth certificate and has had on his show guests who suggested Obama was born outside the U.S. Dobbs does not believe Obama was born outside the U.S., nor does Newsmax. The evidence indicates he was born in Hawaii. But the indisputable fact is that Obama has not released his birth certificate, which the state of Hawaii issues for all citizens born there. The AP implies that Obama has not released a "long version of his birth certificate." But there is no such thing as a long version of a birth certificate. Instead, Obama's campaign last year released only his Certification of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii, which is a document that offers a summarized version of the birth certificate. Even state residents born outside the U.S. can get one. During the 2008 presidential campaign, GOP nominee Sen. John McCain quickly released his birth certificate when liberal bloggers raised questions about his eligibility to be president. McCain was born at a military hospital in Panama. Obama likewise could put the matter to rest by releasing his actual birth certificate, which would show, among other things, the place of his birth and the doctor who performed the birth procedure. This information is not provided on the Certification of Live Birth. As it stands, Obama is the only president in history whose birthplace is unknown to the public – a fact that would be stated on the actual birth certificate. Interestingly, his family has mentioned two different hospitals in Hawaii as the place of birth. Obama’s refusal to release his birth certificate does mean that Obama remains one of America’s most mysterious and opaque presidents ever. Obama, for example, has not released many other documents regarding his public and private life. Many of these documents were sought by reporters, who easily acquiesced when Obama said he would not release them – though most presidential candidates release them as a perfunctory matter. Among the key documents that Obama continues to shield from the public: • Obama released just one brief document detailing his personal health. McCain, on the other hand, released what he said was his complete medical file, totaling more than 1,500 pages. • Obama refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois. Nor did he produce correspondence, such as his schedules of appointments or letters from lobbyists, from his days in the Illinois state Senate. • Obama did not release his client list as an attorney or his billing records. He maintained that he performed only a few hours of legal work for a nonprofit organization with ties to Tony Rezko, the Chicago businessman convicted of fraud in June 2008 but did not release billing records that would prove this assertion. • Obama ignored requests for his records from Occidental College, where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia University. • Obama’s campaign refused to give Columbia, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Former President George W. Bush and presidential contenders Al Gore and John Kerry all released their college transcripts. • Obama did not agree to the release of his application to the Illinois State Bar, which would have cleared up intermittent allegations that his application may have been inaccurate. • Obama did not release records from his time at Harvard Law School. • During the presidential campaign, McCain’s campaign released a full list of all online donors. Obama’s campaign still has not released the names of those who donated at least one-third of the $750 million he raised. Ironically, Obama accused the Bush White House of being "one of the most secretive administrations in our history," and chided then-Sen. Hillary Clinton for not releasing her White House schedules.