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To: i-node who wrote (504455)	8/13/2009 11:11:22 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1575354

First of all, save your slimy IBD cartoons for your fukking fantasy life There was nothing "fantasy" about that cartoon. That's why it was posted. This is a point several of us have tried to explain to you guys for months -- for the longest time, nobody was acknowledging that the 43M (and now the 50M) number was vastly misstating the situation. We hear "there are 50 million without healthcare" which is an out-and-out lie -- when probably 10% that figure, 5M, is a closer figure. I know that for simple people like yourself cartoons do the trick. However, for the rest of the world, that won't cut it. I want hard facts from a credible source and not from a winger rag like IBD. Lib shit has never been easy.....that's something you all don't ever get. And that's why you all keep losing. Even when they do manage to say "50M without health INSURANCE" they conveniently ignore the demographics -- that many ARE covered but won't bother to register with Medicaid, they ARE illegal, they CHOOSE not to have insurance because they want to spend their money in other ways, etc. Yes, these people love paying huge doctor bills and not getting their teeth fixed. The pain from a cavity can be sheer joy. Do you ever think before you post? It is a liberal lie. There is no other way to put it -- and you have exemplified the effects of it -- idiot liberals eat it up. You actually believe there are 50M without "health care". You're either in denial or stupid. Statistics don't lie. Wingers do. > Meanwhile you all don't pay state income taxes We have a 7% state income tax. Talk to CJ and RW -- they're the guys who aren't paying state income taxes. Where the hell is all the money going? Are you so poor you can't generate enough to pay your bills? What the hell are you all doing with your time? > I posted here some of the outrageous salaries the CEOs of these asshole companies are making. Whatever salaries are paid to the CEOs for insurance companies are between the CEOs and their shareholders. I don't view it as any of your concern. Of course. I pay outrageous premiums of $4k per year, not $2K as you mentioned yesterday, but I should be a good boy and ignore what the CEOs of these companies are making. You are a fool.......... This libshit is easy. What's easy is fooling wingers!

To: i-node who wrote (504455)	8/13/2009 12:35:14 PM
From: combjelly	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575354

"There was nothing "fantasy" about that cartoon." Actually, there is quite a bit that is fantasy. The numbers may have been true at one time, but times have changed. How Many Americans Are Uninsured? * Several studies estimate the number of uninsured Americans. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, nearly 46 million Americans, or 18 percent of the population under the age of 65, were without health insurance in 2007, their latest data available.1 * The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, using the Medical Expenditure Panel Survey (MEPS) estimated that the percentage of uninsured Americans under age 65 represented 27 percent of the population. According to the MEPS data, nearly 54 million Americans under the age of 65 were uninsured in the first-half of 2007. 2 * A recent study shows that based on the effects of the recession alone (not job loss), it is projected that nearly seven (7) million Americans will lose their health insurance coverage between 2008 and 2010. 3 Urban Institute researchers estimate that if unemployment reaches 10 percent, another six (6) million Americans will lose their health insurance coverage. Taking these numbers together, it is conceivable that by next year, 57 to 60 million Americans will be uninsured. * The Urban Institute estimates that under a worse case scenario, 66 million Americans will be uninsured by 2019. 4 * Nearly 90 million people – about one-third of the population below the age of 65 spent a portion of either 2007 or 2008 without health coverage.5 nchc.org

To: i-node who wrote (504455)	8/13/2009 12:45:43 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575354

"We have a 7% state income tax. Talk to CJ and RW -- they're the guys who aren't paying state income taxes." And yet both Texas and Florida get less federal spending than is paid in taxes. Go figure.