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To: combjelly who wrote (504529)8/13/2009 2:07:57 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574848
 
CJ, > The only "death panels" are run by the insurance companies and staffed with bean counters. None of the existing bills call for one.

Of course none of the bills call for one. They don't address the valid concerns about cost. Just more empty promises that they can't pay for.

That's what I love about the whole "death panel" stuff. Both sides are distorting the truth, and for one side to call the other side "unhinged" is hypocritical. Which I'm seeing a lot of these days.

> There may be no excuse, but there is evidence.

I'm sure you can find maybe a handful of shills, but the sweeping generalization made by the Democrats is a complete lie.

> The whole discourse has gotten so weird that we have such nuttiness as seniors getting concerned about the government taking control of Medicare...

I love that as well. Maybe they too have valid concerns, that government can't promise Medicare for everyone. Or maybe they just don't want their entitlements affected in any way.

Remember what I said a while ago that you tried to dismiss as another talking point?

Message 25859297

You're already seeing what happens when you try to cater to the public's demand for unlimited health care.

Tenchusatsu



To: combjelly who wrote (504529)8/13/2009 2:40:43 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1574848
 
"The biggest lie I've heard is the notion that the protests are being sponsored by the health insurance industry. There's no excuse for that lie."

Of course they aren't ALL insurance company plants. Just the yell leaders. The vast majority are birther nutbags, (R)'s that just STILL can't believe that a BLACK MAN beat their old white war hero, and useful idiots.

en.wikipedia.org

"The term is now used more broadly to describe someone who is perceived to be manipulated by a political movement, terrorist group, hostile government, or business, whether or not the group is Communist in nature."

America has no shortage of useful idiots. Limbaugh and Beck make a living off them.