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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (101065)	8/20/2009 2:39:48 PM
From: Little Joe	4 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116555

" No they are not. But the way to contradict that is not to throw out insane lies. Better to move the conversation back towards civility and the issues - but instead a few morons on the right are going to scuttle any discussion with their fear tactics." Given that they are dealing with people who lie consistently about everything and who tried to pass this before they even read it, I think it is disingenuous to accuse the opponents of telling insane lies. The liklihood is health care rationing will result in the premature deaths of many people including seniors, as it does in other countries. Much of what has been called lies, may be technical lies in that the bill may not require rationing, but it is nonethless true that rationing is where the bill will take us. I would suggest to you that the opponents are lying a less than the propoonents. If the proponents were honest they will tell us, what I know, which is that we will never know what our health care will look like under the democrats until the law is passed and we are stuck with it. How can you have a rational debate and not get angry with an opponent who uses those kinds of tactics. lj