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Gold/Mining/Energy : International Precious Metals (IPMCF) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (23744)	10/29/1997 9:28:00 PM
From: go4it	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 35569

He already has classed himself with Bernie. These are the fraudulent information that these scumballs have been using all along. IPM is coming out with their report and nothing on God's green earth is going to stop it from coming out. Part of any due diligence is not only finding the information but also finding out where it is coming from and obviously ec never learned that.

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (23744)	10/30/1997 1:12:00 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 35569

Well I am neither wagoneering or in need of horses but If Lumbert is litigous he can be no worse than Pat Sheridan. People wanted to know if there was a suit and there are two. I cannot attest to the quality of the suit or its chances of success, but a totally frivolous suit a judge does not have to countenance at all despite what people think about this sort of thing. The legals are not without precedent and perhaps Mr. Lumbert is aware of events to come that will bear out his allegations. Would you be surprised? The major weakness of his trust lawsuit is also its strength. The endless discovery to determine trading patterns. Something is BOUND to be amiss. Its a delight. It may seem hard to prove collusion at first but when Juries have the brokerage trading practices explained and the brokers have to explain why they gave stock to another brokerage and fixed selling and buying prices it will be enough to give a defense lawyer apoplexy. What will seem to be a normal market will get curiouser and curiouser as the the back and forth see-saw of carnival trades to the absolute exclusion of retail investors will begin to look some strange..what's the point the jury will say..until it dawns on them..too bad it wasn't a grand jury... The stock trail should be interesting...if it can be established..it will take 250K of forensic accounting to unravel it in offshore trusts and such.... I think Lumbert it hoping for a scam to surface in the assaying that will correspond with a trading pattern which will allow for a quick kill. That appears to be a possibility. Would you say somebody had salted 121 samples if there was not a shred of evidence? EC<:-}

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (23744)	10/30/1997 5:10:00 AM
From: Gerald Walls	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 35569

Gleaned from the source Mr Charters provided... Cases filed by Lumbert: (Note: "inact" means that the action taken was after the case had been placed on the "inactive calendar". LOS = lack of service. LOP = ?. Many of these end with "Mail Returned". All of his cases start with something similiar to: Complaint Cert Compulsory Arbitration Application Waiver of Fees) Case Number Filed Defendant Status CV91-92343 11/29/91 AZ State Bar TERMINATED 12/10/92 inact CV93-07464 05/10/93 William Carlile DIS-LOP 06/28/94 inact CV93-09933 06/22/93 William Buck DIS-LOP 07/20/94 inact CV93-20387 08/13/93 AZ Corp Commission TERMINATED 09/23/94 inact CV95-14510 09/05/95 Alanco Environmental DIS-LOP 07/03/97 inact CV95-15718 09/22/95 Thomas Haney TERMINATED 05/27/97 CV95-19096 11/15/95 Richard J Rosengard DIS-LOS 05/30/97 Metropolitan Psychiatric Physicians PC CV96-11314 06/28/96 Commission on Judicial Conduct DISMISSED 10/10/96 JUDGEMENT 10/18/96 AWARDING COSTS 10/18/96 (I think he lost and had to pay court costs???) CV96-13407 07/29/96 Pool Water Products DIS w/Prejudice 01/17/97 CV96-18462 10/15/96 Joe Glenn INACTIVE 08/28/97 (dismissal on 11/1) CV96-23381 12/30/96 Stanley's Garage DIS-LOS 10/06/97 CV97-04931 03/18/97 Alanco Environmental DIS-LOS 07/29/97 CV97-19376 10/20/97 IPM NEW CASE Billie Allred Sam Shaw Behre Dolbear (This is marked "NOT SUBJ TO ARB". Court costs waived.) By a Garnetta Marlene Lubert (aka Garnetta Marlene Fenn Lumbert), included due to the William Buck link: Case Number Filed Defendant Status PB88-90207 Case sealed by order of court CV97-01255 01/22/97 William Buck IV DIS-LOS 07/29/97 Filed against Bernie Lumbert: Case Number Filed Plaintiff Status CV92-08310 05/04/92 Alanco Resources ON GOING (He's using an attorney for defense. Looks like it's been refiled a few times. Says Terminated 1/1/96. Something with court reporter 10/29.) Filed by International Precious Metals: Case Number Filed Defendant Status CV97-14220 08/01/97 AZ Dept of Mines ON GOING Mason Coggin Nyal Niemuth (Lots of stuff here. Left out early stuff. Exhibit on 8/27. "Affidavit of Bernie Lumbert" on 9/4 & 9/5. 09/15: Notice of filing proposed form of judgment. 09/19: Objection to Pla form of judgment and notice of filing proposed form of jud 10/01: Applications for attorney fees and costs 10/01: Statement verified of costs 10/01: Objection Opposition to def form of judgment 10/01: Hearing set 10/07: Oral Argument Reset 10/15: Affidavit in any fact 10/16: Notice of filing originals 10/17: Notice of filing revised proposed form of jud 10/20: Hearing 10/21: Notice of second revised form of order 10/21: Response to application for award of fees & costs 10/22: Ruling Coming up: 11/07: o/a on form of judgment