To: Brumar89 who wrote (8910 ) 9/1/2009 11:29:57 AM From: gg cox 1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 42652 <<Hey, my grandfather died of a stroke, my grandmother of cancer, my cousin of cancer, I could go on and on .... every family is faced by things like he described (ist life)O and yet somehow we survive without Uncle Sam stepping in and being Daddy to us all>> Yes they survived all right but bankrupt in many cases, like Kennedy described. The point of single payer healthcare systems is that it largely does away with abuse and "gaming the system." Your cousin "gamed the system" by lying about his income...someone picked up the tab for his deceit. How can taxpayers avoid paying their share of health care if on the tax roll and are paying taxes? If they try cheating the government out of taxes Uncle Sam lowers the boom so that largely eliminates the gutless weasel factor. Everywhere the weasel factor , did you read John's post.. Message 25907293 You are a citizen tax payer, paying your share for health care,you are sick and need treatment, you go for treatment...how can you "game that system" you don't get a bill and money is not exchanged at the hospital . If you are out of work ,down on your luck, born with high weasel factor genetics, and good for nothing, well you can still weasel out treatment,, as now.<g>Should import "saving face" from Japan. The problem for you is, that you are in the "the tip of the ice berg" category as Kennedy suggests,no waiting times for you,red carpet treatment and your employer is probably picking up your tab or you are slow witted but with big bucks <g> and are happy to pay $14,400 per year premiums and rising...the pacman is chewing from the under side of the berg. Anyones opinion of Kennedy is ok with me.<g>