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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (25130)9/4/2009 1:56:56 AM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36918
 
Investigation and thinking about such enormous things as climate and CO2 production is cheap enough. It just takes a few hundred highly intelligent scientists. Compared with the value of the energy derived from the CO2 production, the cost of even 1000 scientists is trivial. There is more spent on booze in boardrooms of the carbon-burning industry than on 1000 scientists.

I'd put a carbon tax on coal and easily taxed carbon fuels to fund research into the effects on the commons of increasing CO2 from 280 ppm to 1000 ppm.

Ditch the cap and trade idea.

Also switch taxes from cyberspace industries to carbon burning industries [unless they sequester their CO2 for 500 years such as by pouring it as a liquid 400 metres under the oceans].

Cut government spending on wastrel things.

The forces regarding CO2 are simple enough to understand. The combination result is the tricky part.

My guess is that CO2 is trivial compared with the other feedback effects such as H2O as vapour, clouds, snow, water and the interaction with plants, animals and deserts. But rumour has it that CO2 at 400 ppm might have an effect, so it's worth having a look to see if that's true.

It looks as though the sum of effects is good, even if polar bears have to go and live somewhere else.

The so-called experts couldn't even get the sun-spot cycle right, acting surprised that there's a major quiet period going on which could turn out to be of Little Ice Age proportions, or Big Ice Age. It was obvious that the cycle was heading down by looking at the last couple of hundred years of records [though Neo in SI said he couldn't see it - seemed odd to me that he couldn't see it]

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