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To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/4/2009 10:22:53 AM
From: Jim McMannis3 Recommendations  Respond to of 110194
 
Womens rights?



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/4/2009 10:47:16 AM
From: Metacomet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
"one sentence explanation as to our objectives in Afghanistan."

Tar Baby.

As in all of the Bush wars, the answer remains "roll your own", there is no strategic reason.



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/4/2009 1:03:31 PM
From: Peter V  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
I cannot. All I can do is speculate as to "our objective." I think O is trying to prevent the resurgence of the Taliban, which allowed Al Queda to freely operate in the country, in favor of a regime that is US-friendly. Ironically, that's apparently what the USSR was trying to accomplish.

As my pro-Bush boss noted a couple years back though, like Iraq, Afghanistan is an effective "bug killer," as lots of anti-US fighters come to the area where we can zap them. Of course, they zap a few of us along the way. You can never really win a guerilla war.



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/6/2009 11:35:12 PM
From: TobagoJack2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
<<I'm just wondering if anyone can give me a concise, one sentence explanation as to our objectives in Afghanistan>>

to fulfill empire's destiny? or

to make the world believe team usa can continue doing the moronic long after stupidity has passed its use-by date, so that team usa would be taken seriously w/r to other failures in rationality, i.e. dropping so-called money from imaginary helicopters and such weak-brained but highly regarded rubbish theories

so, just for example, i believe with most of my dollars that bernanke meant what he said about the printing press, and wager accordingly, getmoregold



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/7/2009 9:38:54 AM
From: Bank Holding Company  Respond to of 110194
 
maybe it's an insidious plan to infiltrate the pentagon.



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/7/2009 11:51:03 AM
From: starhawke1 Recommendation  Respond to of 110194
 
Tradition. (It's where the suicidal tendencies of an empire become both apparent and effective.)



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/7/2009 1:59:05 PM
From: Skeeter Bug2 Recommendations  Respond to of 110194
 
SLBD, i'm surprised nobody touched on what i think is the *real* reason we are in afghanistan.

the military industrial complex wanted an avenue to generate profits and obama wants their campaign contributions.

after all, who knows how long america will be fertile looting ground? ya gotta get while the gettin' is good - and that is right now.

does it really have to be more complicated than that?

i don't think so.

i think obama *really* did increase increase transparency in washington, but not in the way he or anyone else imagined.

who is the one person on the planet to spend more money on the military than george w bush?

was that a campaign pledge of his?



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/7/2009 9:11:15 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 110194
 
To be in position to deal with Pakistani nuclear assets should it ever become necessary and to engage the Taliban rear as it tries to move into Pakistan.

Afghanistan is a distraction; the game is in Pakistan.



To: saveslivesbyday who wrote (104818)9/10/2009 4:31:17 AM
From: NOW7 Recommendations  Respond to of 110194
 
If you don't believe that our leaders are that venal and stupid, if you think they are doing anything other than scrambling around blindly, heedlessly, trying to find ways to keep their little racket of power and privilege going, then attend to this quote from Englehardt, as he zeroes in on the great statesman-like wisdom of Richard Holbrooke, Obama's personally appointed "special envoy" to the killing fields in Afghanistan and Pakistan:

Sometime later this month, the Obama administration will present Congress with "metrics" for... well, since this isn't the Bush era, we can't say "victory." In the style of special envoy to the region Richard Holbrooke, let's call it "success." Holbrooke recently offered this definition of that word, evidently based on the standards the Supreme Court used to define pornography: "We'll know it when we see it."

"We'll know it when we see it." What are we fighting for? "We'll know it when we see it." What is the reason my son or daughter died? "We'll know it when we see it." What is the reason that thousands of innocent civilians -- children, women, peaceful men, whole families, the sick, the old -- have been torn to shreds by bombs and bullets? "We'll know it when we see it."

This cynical, "savvy," tough-guy phrase is the perfect emblem of our age: blustering, inhuman, cruel and ignorant.
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