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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (71920)	9/13/2009 7:11:39 PM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

Perhaps this is why Obama leaves it out there-------he wants to get his socialist agenda in place before the truth comes out about his birth and family and education etc. The question of his birth was as I recall aluded to in his own writings------no marriage certificate for Stanley and Obama, Sr., no divorce papers, this would make Obama a bastard son even if he was born in Hawaii. Then to Indonesia, did he give up his American citizenship when he was adopted by Soetoro? There is no doubt that what we saw in the early part of his campaign is not his original birth certificate. I've been through the reasons why on this board and other places. Having done a reasonable amount of research in genealogy I have seen everything-----parents often claim to be married---when a child is born, they then do the 'proper' thing to clean up the story such as posting a half inch article in the newspaper announcing the birth. I've seen marriage certificates where the year has been marked through and earlier years written in to account for the 9 months of gestation for the new born baby. Did his running for Senator require President Bush to personally vet Obama----I doubt it----that was likely a job of the Federal Elections Commission. Has anyone seen those Federal Elections records? mj

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (71920)	9/13/2009 7:16:55 PM
From: MJ	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224729

Perhaps this is why Obama leaves it out there-------he wants to get his socialist agenda in place before the truth comes out about his birth and family and education etc. The question of his birth was as I recall alluded to in his own writings------no marriage certificate for Stanley and Obama, Sr., no divorce papers, this would make Obama a bastard son even if he was born in Hawaii. Then to Indonesia, did he give up his American citizenship when he was adopted by Soetoro if he was considered an American Citizen? There is no doubt that what we saw in the early part of his campaign is not his original birth certificate. I've been through the reasons why on this board and other places. Having done a reasonable amount of research in genealogy I have seen everything-----parents often claim to be married---when a child is born, they then do the 'proper' thing to clean up the story such as posting a half inch article in the newspaper announcing the birth. I've seen marriage certificates where the year has been marked through and earlier years written in to account for the 9 months of gestation for the new born baby. Did his running for Senator require President Bush to personally vet Obama----I doubt it----that was likely a job of the Federal Elections Commission. Has anyone seen those Federal Elections records? mj