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To: JimisJim who wrote (85209)	9/17/2009 9:03:24 AM
From: HerbVic	Respond to of 213185

Yeah Jim, as long as the bean counters and the IT guys are calling the shots, we (the worker bees) are stuck in crap city. Ask for a better chair. Chances are you'll get it if the old one is not doing its job. If the computer is not doing its job, your expert opinion no longer counts for much.

To: JimisJim who wrote (85209)	9/17/2009 12:11:20 PM
From: Stock Puppy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213185

I would have thought your eyes would go out first. From what I understand about these things, monitor too far away is not good - bring closer if you can and try to keep sitting with neutral spine and move around every so often (and for your eyes, every so often look at the fair lass far down in the last cubicle; if your wife complains, remember you're just exercising your eyes, it's for medicinal purposes. Not sure what you can do if the occupant of the last cubicle is a pimply grossly overweight male.) spineuniverse.com en.wikipedia.org Feet flat on the floor or chair rung. Butt back. For lower back, I've found that I'm in proper position when I move from a backward arch forward and when I hit position my stomach muscles tighten a bit. Much more than that and I'm slouching, no good. For upper back, shoulders back. Do less benches, more lat work. Means nothing if you can bench 480 but can't bring your elbows behind you back and hold it in bent over lat pull or equivalent. For neck, head retracted and chin level with ground. Slide monitor toward/ away from you instead of rounding your back/neck. Now if you slide it too far back and it topples on the floor, maybe you might have justification for a replacement. Oh yeah I think monitors are cheaper for the company than workman's comp? First time I did the above (sit properly, not break the monitor) I felt like I was in a very awkward position, but once I got used to it my back is a lot better.

To: JimisJim who wrote (85209)	9/17/2009 3:23:10 PM
From: Doren	Respond to of 213185

This really sucks. Shades of the movie "Office Space" (if you haven't seen it, see it, funny as hell.) Your salary/productivity vs your health vs a couple of C notes. Like they say in the construction industry "Trippin' over dollars to pick up nickles." I'm trying to think of a solution that would not get you in trouble or have you resorting to negative behavior. I think I would consider buying a decent monitor out of my own salary, to shame the management but that's treading a thin line too. Bad situation when you have that "Office Space" type Peter Principle going. You can't really tell them that if you go blind you'll sue them. That's not going to endear you to management. Humorously the last place I worked for bought top of the line, huge monitors for every employee even though many of them had no use for such, AND they bought Herman Miller Chairs for everyone!!! Unfortunately they made a different kind of bonehead mistake and three months later they were out of business despite having a product that should have been untouchable. Brilliant guys, again "Trippin' over dollars to pick up nickles."

To: JimisJim who wrote (85209)	9/17/2009 5:10:32 PM
From: David M.	3 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 213185

Folks, Having been a Mac user at home since the "Hello" machine in 1984 (no old jokes please) and having been in IT from even before then and into the present, the IT resistance to Mac is based solely on the fear that letting Mac into the environment will make it difficult to justify the staff and operating budgets the IT folks have for the desktop computing environments. It is that FUD that they sell to senior management consistently, despite many pilots/prototypes to the contrary. Just a couple of years I led on of this and showed the potential of substantial savings in converting certain areas to Mac and yet the IT guys (my colleagues) opposed the study and did everything they could to raise the FUD factor to the level that I gave up and let the company continue on it Dell/Windows course. They had a hell of a time get the Macs away from the pilot users! David