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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Solon who wrote (27215)9/21/2009 1:24:34 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931
 
Are you against criminals receiving Justice?

"But we are not talking about criminals."

Why would you say that? These people lived their lives as Jews: claimed the Law of Moses as their own: and then broke that Law both actively, (by doing that which was prohibited) and passively (by failing to do that which the Law prescribed). That makes them Criminals by any rational definition.

So I repeat:
Are you against criminals receiving Justice?

"And none of his loved ones could have benefited from a visit from the dead??"

Again How many chances do you give a criminal when they have lived a lifetime of crime and demonstrated a consistent rejection of authority?

Of course God can and does, choose to be gracious to some for His own good reasons and forgive their Sins/Lawbreaking on the basis of Jesus' death and resurrection. Does that obligate Him to forgive everyone? I think not! The only obligation God has is to His own nature and the only thing Humans can legitimately expect and indeed demand, is justice.

"We are talking about people who have not yet been saved. At what age does YOUR CHURCH give up on such people and say (as Abraham did, in effect): TO HELL WITH THEM??"

Christians never give up on anyone. As long as they have breath in their lungs there is opportunity to repent and avail oneself of the propitiatory sacrifice of Jesus by placing their faith in Him alone and not in anything they have done to make themselves "worthy" to God.

"Why all of a sudden does Abraham choose to be flippant when some of the people involved were undoubtedly children tabula rasa??"

Tabula Rasa is a philosophical construct that flies in the face of what is obviously true. I was shocked that my children had distinct personalities from the moment they were born partly because I had assumed tabula rasa to be true. It is not. Aside from being an interesting idea it is completely irrelevant to this discussion for two reasons. First: there is no mention of children in the passage and Second: even if they were, God's judgment, (based on the Law) would not apply to someone who has not broken the Law so anyone who has not broken the Law (including children) has nothing to worry about.

"Why all of a sudden"

There is no "all of a sudden" in this passage; there is a lifetime of rebellion and Lawbreaking. God knows a man's heart and He can take the life that He has given us at any time and bring us to account for all of our life choices.

I am a great sinner and I shudder to think of having to face God and give account to Him for my life. I know I will be greatly ashamed and will have nothing by way of excuse to offer. That's why I cling so desperately to the one who died for me. He lived a perfect life: fulfilled the Law and then laid that perfect life down as a substitute for me to satisfy the demands of the Law. That's the difference between Law and Gospel. I give God all the glory for that. How could I do otherwise? I am not the man I was at one time but I am not the man I should be either. I am a work in progress to say the least, but I have the promise and the confidence that God is not finished with me just yet.

"being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." (Philippians 1:6)