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To: damniseedemons who wrote (13833)10/30/1997 4:38:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
Right, Sal, we all know how important the sacred IE icon is to the integrity and uniformity of the Windows Experience. And we all know that Microsoft is quite good at getting the right weasel words into their contracts. And, of course, anyone who doubts the gospel as preached from One Microsoft Way is a religious zealot. And those who preach the glory of monopoly in investing while denying the applicability of antitrust law to said monopoly couldn't possibly be saying anything inconsistent either, could they?

Microsoft can redefine words anyway they want, they still have meaning independent of the current company line.

Cheers, Dan.

P.S. This is meant to be sarcastic, not overly caustic. Sheesh, I'm spending a lot of time defending published opinions here, they are just opinions, there seem to be plenty of people here stating the Microsoft company line as fact.



To: damniseedemons who wrote (13833)10/30/1997 6:14:00 PM
From: Bearded One  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 24154
 
Sal, the double-standard is coming from you. In one case, you cite a few words from the contract, in the opposing case, you cite Microsoft's interpretation of the contract. What is Sun's definition of the "whole product" with regards to Java?



To: damniseedemons who wrote (13833)10/30/1997 8:45:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes  Respond to of 24154
 
>>>h Java, MSFT's interpretation of the contract doesn't obligate them to ship EVERYTHING. They also say that they're allowed to make changes.<<<

Well, I read this. It does seem to say that they have to ship the whole part that Sun gives them, and that sun determines what that is. There are areas where they might be able to put stuff on top of that, but not replace or omit any of it. As far as I can tell.

Meanwhile, what a contract says and what parts of it will hold up in court are different.

Chaz