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To: carranza2 who wrote (55496)	9/26/2009 7:14:53 PM
From: SG	5 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 217885

I think that nations underestimate the power of their bombastic verbalizations. If the Iranians keep poking their developing nuclear fingers into the eyes of the West, they are going to be in big trouble. Saddam underestimated how seriously people took his WMD lies, even when he tried to backpedal and let in the UN inspectors. He gave Bush an excuse to pursue his own political agenda. Obama does not have a similar agenda but Ahmidinejad is a fool if he thinks he can flaunt his nuclear progress without real consequences. The Israelis already held a publicized rehearsal of ther military plan. The Iranians are not Arabs but, like the Arabs, they seem to have trouble in realizing political realities. The consequences of a nuclear Iran with a nut like A at the helm are too serious to ignore, a shame for the suffering Iranian people who may suffer further for it. SG

To: carranza2 who wrote (55496)	9/27/2009 9:37:19 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217885

carranza- unfortunate your analysis is based on Western mentality and not all people around the world use the same logic. Better read about the deep believes of the Shia fundamentalist that rule today Iran and their "Muhammad al-Mahdi" and the ultimate savior of humankind and the final Imam of the Twelve Imams. "Shi'as believe that Imam al-Mahdi will reappear when the world has fallen into chaos and civil war emerges between the human race for no reason. At this time, it is believed, half of the true believers will ride from Yemen carrying white flags to Mecca, while the other half will ride from Karbala, in Iraq, carrying black flags to Mecca. At this time, Imam al-Mahdi will come wielding God's Sword, the Blade of Evil's Bane, Zulfiqar, the Double-Bladed Sword." "Twelvers believe that the Madhi has been hidden by God (referred to as The Occultation) and will later emerge to change the world into a perfect and just Islamic society alongside Jesus (Isa) before the Yaum al-Qiyamah (literally "Day of the Resurrection" or "Day of the Standing")" en.wikipedia.org the laws are outline at this site en.wikipedia.org

To: carranza2 who wrote (55496)	9/27/2009 10:20:59 AM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217885

You said" I think the Iranians are developing nukes not to use them but to deter Israel [though they don't need to since Israel would leave them alone if Israel were itself left alone, but that is how paranoia works] and, more important, to deter conventional retaliation when it starts a regional conventional war or engages in blatant and large scale terrorism through Hizbollah. I suspect that they have calculated that having nukes will preclude large scale conventional retaliation." Who is Iran but its population? There is no Iran as you posit it. There is only political momentum tied with this or that group enabled by a megaphone to call itself anything it wants. Irans politics are in disconnect with its own citizens. Achtune is a communist allied to the international, the clerics are kleptocrats tied as they are to a different charade. The Folks of the holistic body politic are pushed and pulled between these poles, soon, they will exercise their degrees of freedom against the leadership in full knowledge of its inadequacies in structure, content, and goals.