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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (124846)	10/12/2009 2:57:03 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 206146

NG glut. Campaign to artificially prop up NG. "Industrial demand for electricity, 29% of the market, was down 12.5% from a year earlier in July, according to the Department of Energy. online.wsj.com

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (124846)	10/12/2009 5:10:43 PM
From: JimisJim	Respond to of 206146

Elroy, good pts... perhaps we need to do both until we get where we want to be. Jim

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (124846)	10/12/2009 7:01:05 PM
From: Bearcatbob	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206146

LOL - absolutely hilarious. Amazing how there are transmission losses in the transport of gas and not in the transmission of electricity. The data to me is down right laughable. When proponents of a position resort to distortions one can only wonder. Bob

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (124846)	10/12/2009 7:34:44 PM
From: energyplay	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206146

A minor point - The is a little bit of apples and oranges here. The Acura TL is a 4 door 4 passenger "luxury" vehicle (according to Wikipedia) that has real tires. The EV1 was a two passenger vehicle with very skinny tires that don't do curves well. The Acura has about twice the interior volume of the EV1. A better conventional comparison would be the Toyota Yaris, which gets around 34 mpg city. A Toyota Prius in plug in electric vehicle mode would be a better comparison. (The Yaris was the basis of the early model Prius, the newer Prius is much more a separate model. The electric is still much more efficient, but the difference is closer to 2:1 instead of almost 3:1 ** The EV1 was a long time ago, and we can expect electric vehicles to make more progress than IC powered vehicles.