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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (56483)	10/14/2009 9:57:18 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217917

"it is going to be soooo much fun" - nameless unreal last man standing death match tournament warrior

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (56483)	10/14/2009 10:37:29 PM
From: Secret_Agent_Man	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217917

REPEAT- "People remain unworried as the gates of doom are built around them, and it's only as the gates are actually closing that the percipient, quick and adroit escape while most are shut in and doomed. The bias is to believe things are "normal" and therefore "okay" even as things are sliding and events are moving and ideology is shifting. What would you say a helicopter seat was worth on that last chopper leaving the roof of the building in Vietnam? The Jews who escaped to and were taken into Shanghai were few and fortunate. As the Berlin Wall went up, it was not immediately apparent to many people what the large and lengthy implications were. "As rich as an Argentine" was an expression valid 100 years ago, but now Argentina is used as an example of the end state of self-destruction." that is the best i've read from you yet-ng and unfortunately TRUE

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (56483)	10/15/2009 4:23:30 AM
From: Chas.	Respond to of 217917

"Freedom's just another word for Nothing left to lose" seems more relevant than ever these days...

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (56483)	10/15/2009 4:44:53 AM
From: TobagoJack	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217917

<<What would you say a helicopter seat was worth on that last chopper leaving the roof of the building in Vietnam?>> ... not very much, as the crisis was created by war-mongering americans trying to uphold colonialism and forestall national self determination via engagement in phoenix war crimes too horrid to dwell on, and what came after their humiliating departure was very mild when compared against many other revolutions of the more blood curdling sort, especially after the ever altruistic chinese taught the viet con some manners by sharp but effective and strictly miliary lesson at great cost to self, no charge <<The Jews who escaped to and were taken into Shanghai were few and fortunate>> ... yes they were, and the tickets that got them to shanghai was worth much, even as china was in chaos, under invasion by neat and tidy japanese, and its people still more than generously took in the unfortunates. what the jews were escaping was the end of the world, even as they were simply escaping into cataclysmic change travelchinaguide.com <<"As rich as an Argentine" was an expression valid 100 years ago, but now Argentina is used as an example of the end state of self-destruction>> ... rich and smart can be mutually exclusive, especially when the richness is a stroke of good fortune, thievery, and is devoid of true merit. <<NZ government debt increasing at US$7,000 per year per [non-government employee] taxpayer is serious money, when the GDP per capita is something like US$30,000>> ... as i was going on about rich vs smart :0) <<[hmmm, same as Hong Kong - I thought Hong Kong was ahead of NZ now]. Especially when NZ is already loaded to the gunwales with debt.>> the two big differences between hk and nz are that (i) the former has nought for natural wealth, was robbed in any case, and the latter has much good fortune and engaged in robbing in just about all cases; and (ii) the former has 7th largest reserve on the planet, plus much tooo much private savings relative to the rest of the known and unknown galaxy, whereas the latter has big goose egg in bank to show for its nature wealth.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (56483)	10/15/2009 10:51:28 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217917

<<Freedom, real freedom, is an immensely valuable commodity, which is vastly under rated, misunderstood, and is in short supply nearly everywhere, including those places which tout themselves as being "free".>> the mickey mouse state is leading the free nation down the primrose path to nowheresville, just in in-tray By Marc Lifsher October 14, 2009 Reporting from Sacramento - The influential lobby group Consumer Electronics Assn. is fighting what appears to be a losing battle to dissuade California regulators from passing the nation's first ban on energy-hungry big-screen televisions. On Tuesday, executives and consultants for the Arlington, Va., trade group asked members of the California Energy Commission to instead let consumers use their wallets to decide whether they want to buy the most energy-saving new models of liquid-crystal display and plasma high definition TVs. "Voluntary efforts are succeeding without regulations," said Doug Johnson, the association's senior director for technology policy. Too much government interference could hamstring industry innovation and prove expensive to manufacturers and consumers, he warned. But those pleas didn't appear to elicit much support from commissioners at a public hearing on the proposed rules that would set maximum energy-consumption standards for televisions to be phased in over two years beginning in January 2011. A vote could come as early as Nov. 4. The association's views weren't shared by everyone in the TV business. Representatives of some TV makers, including top-seller Vizio Inc. of Irvine, said they would have little trouble complying with tighter state standards without substantially increasing prices. "We're comfortable with our ability to meet the proposed levels and implementation dates," said Kenneth R. Lowe, Vizio's co-founder and vice president. Last month, the commission formally unveiled its proposal to require manufacturers to limit television energy consumption in a way that has been done with refrigerators, air conditioners and dozens of other products since the 1970s. "We would not propose TV efficiency standards if we thought there was any evidence in the record that they will hurt the economy," said Commissioner Julia Levin, who has been in charge of the two-year rule-making procedure. "This will actually save consumers money and help the California economy grow and create new clean, sustainable jobs." Tightening efficiency ratings by using new technology and materials should result in "zero increase in cost to consumers," said Harinder Singh, an Energy Commission staffer on the TV regulation project. California's estimated 35 million TVs and related electronic devices account for about 10% of all household electricity consumption, the Energy Commission staff reported. But manufacturers quickly are coming up with new technologies that are making even 50-inch-screen models much more economical to operate. New features, such as light-emitting diodes that consume tiny amounts of power, special reflective films and sensors that automatically adjust TV brightness to a room's viewing conditions, are driving down electricity consumption, experts said. The payoff could be big for TV owners, said Ken Rider, a commission staff engineer. Average first-year savings from reduced electricity use would be an estimated $30 per set and $912 million statewide, he said. If all TVs met state standards, Rider added, California could avoid the $600-million cost of building a natural-gas-fired power plant. Switching to more-efficient TVs could have an estimated net benefit to the state of $8.1 billion, the commission staff reported. Consumer Electronics Assn. officials disputed that figure, arguing that it was based on out-of-date numbers that fail to account for recent industry innovations. "With voluntary compliance, manufacturers can meet the targets over time, managing the cost impact, yet not in any way impeding innovation," said Seth Greenstein, an association consultant. marc.lifsher@latimes.com Copyright C 2009, The Los Angeles Times