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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: LLCF who wrote (27667)10/15/2009 1:30:26 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"impersonal person"? "ROFLMAO! You're the one who thinks god is a person AT ALL. But you're right... that is irrational!"

Well laugh at yourself, because you are the one who sits in a Church and recites the Apostles Creed, but doesn't believe any of it.

"I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

He descended into hell. [See Calvin]

The third day He arose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
"
..............................................................

"Who cares Dennett... ?"

He's making the same point about you, that I am. That in denying that God is a personal being you are essentially an Atheist and that you are deceiving yourself to think otherwise.

If what you hold sacred is not any kind of Person you could pray to, or consider to be an appropriate recipient of gratitude (or anger, when a loved one is senselessly killed), you're an atheist in my book,” writes Dennett.
“If, for reasons of loyalty to tradition, diplomacy, or self-protective camouflage (very important today, especially for politicians), you want to deny what you are, that's your business, but don't kid yourself.
”[1] (Daniel Dennett)

"God is everywhere and everything" <<That may be the definition common to New age Pantheists like Eckhart Tolle and Oprah, but it has little to do with a Christian concept of God.>>

That's silly, is {your} God omnipresent... OR NOT!?

Yes He is but that's not what you asserted as the "common definition" is it? Yours is not a Christian definition it's a pagan one.

“God is Spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth” (John 4:24 NIV).

As I already pointed out to you the Christian God is the personal Creator and sustainer of the physical universe who entered this created universe at the incarnation in order to redeem it. If every "THING" in the universe disappeared God would still be.

Speaking of Jesus:

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation- if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.