To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (332196 ) 11/4/2009 6:04:23 PM From: alanrs 2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793970 I understand completely. Two quick examples. Long ago and far away I was picked up by the cops. On the way to the station I asked why and they said I looked like somebody they were looking for. The guy laughed and said EVERYBODY looks like someone we are looking for. No charges, they let me go after about an hour and I had to walk the 4 miles back to where my motorcycle was. Downtown Chicago, job putting some ornamental pre-cast on an existing building. Crane, permit, safety cones, all copasetic. Cleared with the building owners to perform the work, they're the ones who wanted it done, I couldn't care less how their building looked. Involver drilling holes to anchor plates so the pieces could be welded. Woman comes out and tells us we are making too much noise and have to stop. There's a meeting going on with some very important people, CEO's she said, specifically. We neither bowed nor stopped, although we were not impolite about it. 20 minutes the cops show up, shut the job down, issue a ticket for working without a permit, despite being shown the permit with the correct date and address. Had to go to court (more time somebody had to pay for), ticket dismissed. In striving for a civil society we have ended up making a large portion of our population criminals. By making it clear that only certain people have to follow the rules we have fostered a disrespect for the law. Push people and they will push back. Put some cop in a position that must lead to thinking about his fellow citizens as the enemy and watch him crack. A fun game all around. It must be nice to be King, especially with plausible deniability protecting whatever conscience may or may not be present. It wasn't me, we gave those cops sensitivity training, if only those poor stupid people (the perp and the cop) would do as I say (not as I do). It kind of sucks to be a serf. ARS