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Pastimes : Wine You Can Enjoy @ Under $20 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: estatemakr who wrote (843)	11/7/2009 12:04:10 PM
From: Thomas Mercer-Hursh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1277

If you don't like Zin ... which I tend to think only means you haven't had the right Zin yet ... then it sure sounds like a Rhone red occasion to me, probably Mourvedre or one of the GSM blends. But, you might also consider Italy ... some Dolcetti might do the trick.

To: estatemakr who wrote (843)	11/7/2009 10:51:22 PM
From: SG	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1277

Hey Estate, Do you have a recipe for that cranberry sauce...sounds great. Today I tried the only chianti I've ever liked...Lamole Chianti Classico Riserva 2006. $19.99. I'm not good with wine desciptions; see if you can try it at a tasting. Chianti in dark restaurants in those little bottles with the candles always tasted like rotgut to me. SG

To: estatemakr who wrote (843)	11/8/2009 1:00:17 PM
From: Mark Marcellus	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1277

First of all my (wine drinking) sympathies on living in Utah. There's a discussion to be had about whether the gub'mint should be in the Health Care business, but I think we can all agree they shouldn't be selling wine. I hope you're able to buy wine in more reasonable venues. I agree with Thomas that you probably just haven't had the right zinfandel, though there may be some disagreement between him and me as to what the "right" zinfandel is. In the mid teens, the Quivira is worth a shot if you ever get the chance. Re wines to go with darker and richer sauces, reds from the Cotes Du Rhone, or in that style, are definitely a good way to go. Based on your zinfandel comments, I would be cautious with California versions, which often tend to be overblown and overripe. Jon Bonne (an excellent wine writer) happens to have an article in this weekend's SF Gate that covers Washington state syrah's. sfgate.com I haven't tried any of the ones he mentioned, and they ain't cheap (a common problem with West Coast reds) but if he's recommending a wine it's worth a try. FWIW, my rule of thumb in selecting from Rhone style reds I'm not familiar with is to go with lower alcohol levels, say 14.5% or below. Not foolproof, but you'll avoid the worst monstrosities. Gamay is also an excellent choice with these types of meals. Edmunds St. John makes a wine they call "Bone-Jolly" which is quite good. From Beaujolais there are many village specific wines (Regnie, Fleurie, Morgon, Brouilly, Chenas, Moulin-a-Vent, Saint-Amour) that are great wines and great values in the $15-$25 range. However, there is also a lot of crap, and availability is hit or miss. Wines imported by Louis/Dressner or Kermit Lynch are very reliable (I would trust any wine of any type from either of them). There are also more generic "Beujolais Villages" wines that are widely available and can offer good value in the $10 to $15 range. I've had luck with Louis Latour and Louis Jadot. I would avoid DuBouef like the plague. Finally, since you're near Idaho, I don't know if you're familiar with it but there is a winery in your neck of the woods that makes good, and very cheap, riesling - Ste Chapelle in the Snake River valley.