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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (81777)	11/16/2009 3:13:57 PM
From: LLCF	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Exactly.... word games. You're pretending that the mother isn't involved... that article has to do with cloning ethics and NOT abortion. Therefore the author is NOT DEALING with the reality that the mother and zygote ARE NOT SEPARATE. This is a FACT that the author would readily admit and take the disucussion in a whole other direction (mothers rights) if brought up but NOT NEEDED in the cloning debate. Here's a tidbit: <<She is totipotent, i.e., this single-cell can produce all of the different kinds of cells a bigger, more complex human being ever needs. She contains all the genetic information needed for all the processes of her growth and development.>> Ok so far... now: <<Under her own direction, this tiny single-cell human zygote immediately produces specifically human proteins, enzymes - and soon specifically human tissues and organs (not cabbage or giraffe ones). This is accomplished by turning her genes on and off as needed by continually blocking and unblocking the genetic information in the DNA - thus sending a "cascade" of molecular information throughout her growth and development.>> This is incorrect!! ANY embryologist knows this. The MOTHER IS INTIMATELY INVOLVED. THE MOTHER (the zygotes "environment") turns on and off ALL SORTS OF FUNCTIONS (genes) and supplies ALL SORTS OF ENZYMES, proteins (probably ALL), etc. The MOTHER ALSO TURNS THE WHOLE PROCESS OFF AND TERMINATES THE PREGNANCY in about 15- 20% of all pregnacies. << but is rather simply a physically continuous process of growth and complexity, which continues until death.>> Withing the context of the mother, yes. Again, once you bring THE MOTHER in, vs clone, then the context changes. DAK