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To: koan who wrote (65762)	11/28/2009 1:00:19 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Europe got its mass killing out of women out of its system during the burning times, speaking of women set on fire... all hail to The Church. It is possible we can mostly thank the Celts for a different level of participation and power re women when it comes to europeans, and what will hopefully spread. Boudica formerly known as Boadicea and known in Welsh as "Buddug")[1] (d. AD 60 or 61) was a queen of the Brittonic Iceni tribe of what is now known as East Anglia in England, who led an uprising of the tribes against the occupying forces of the Roman Empire. Boudica's husband, Prasutagus, an Icenian king who had ruled as a nominally independent ally of Rome, left his kingdom jointly to his daughters and the Roman Emperor in his will. However, when he died his will was ignored. The kingdom was annexed as if conquered, Boudica was flogged and her daughters raped, and Roman financiers called in their loans. In AD 60 or 61, while the Roman governor, Gaius Suetonius Paulinus, was leading a campaign on the island of Anglesey in north Wales, Boudica led the Iceni, along with the Trinovantes and others, in revolt. They destroyed Camulodunum (Colchester), formerly the capital of the Trinovantes, but now a colonia (a settlement for discharged Roman soldiers) and the site of a temple to the former emperor Claudius, built and maintained at local expense, and routed a Roman legion, the IX Hispana, sent to relieve the settlement. On hearing the news of the revolt, Suetonius hurried to Londinium (London), the twenty-year-old commercial settlement that was the rebels' next target. Concluding he did not have the numbers to defend it, Suetonius evacuated and abandoned it. It was burnt to the ground, as was Verulamium (St Albans). An estimated 70,000–80,000 people were killed in the three cities (though the figures are suspect).[2] Suetonius, meanwhile, regrouped his forces in the West Midlands, and despite being heavily outnumbered, defeated Boudica in the Battle of Watling Street. The crisis had led the emperor Nero to consider withdrawing all Roman forces from the island, but Suetonius' eventual victory over Boudica secured Roman control of the province. Boudicca then poisoned herself so she would not be captured.

To: koan who wrote (65762)	11/28/2009 1:08:49 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Some things are relative, Koan. We can sit in the West and abhor the practice you speak of... but when the Brits outlawed, did women yet have the vote in their country? What rights did they have? For instance we can get horrified by the recent ceremony held in Nepal where a couple hundred thousand animals were sacrificed in ritual, yet we raise and slaughter animals every day in terrible conditions which we don't witness and then we eat them. that chicken on the table was hung upside down by one chicken foot and then its neck was slit. so what's the deal with worrying about a ritual death?