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To: RetiredNow who wrote (14388)	11/30/2009 12:54:01 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

Years ago a guy said gayness was caused by a virus a person got as a fetus which damaged that person's DNA which caused them to be homosexual. Prove him wrong.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (14388)	11/30/2009 1:07:30 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

The leaked emails show the way science isn't supposed to work. Peer review was subverted and we have emails from a clique of scientists doing the perverting. Furthermore, the idea that peer review proves that a paper is TRUTH is invalid as well ... even when peer review is working the way it should it only shows that peers in the field thought the paper worth publishing. It never was a gold seal of approval - yes, this paper is TRUTH and no criticism is warranted. The burden of proof should exist on those making a claim - in this case the claim that CO2 from fossil fuels will cause environmental catastrophe. Thats true in any field, not just science. There is no requirement that critics prove an alternative theory. However, there are credible, numbers backed alternative theories. One is that solar cycles are the predominant cause of climate changes.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (14388)	11/30/2009 2:22:33 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Climate-gate e-mails released by whistleblower, not hacker By: Chris Horner OpEd Contributor November 30, 2009 After reams of information were posted on a Russian server detailing the inner workings at the highest -- and highest-compensated -- levels of what's called "climate science," many of us in the "skeptic" community were reminded of one phrase: "Told you so." The information included e-mails, computer codes, annotations to code and the like. They were all of a part, not rife with "How's the wife?"-type correspondence but apparently the documents responding to a long-frustrated series of requests under the United Kingdom's freedom of information law. This is only one of numerous factors indicating that the disclosures were not the work of a "hacker," as the media parrot without evidence, but a whistleblower on the inside. The e-mails detail organized efforts to subvert and violate transparency laws -- as well, it would seem, as document retention, ethics and other policies --- in order to keep the public misinformed about the state of climate science, ... Message 26138046