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To: combjelly who wrote (534170)12/3/2009 8:50:02 PM
From: i-node3 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1575093
 
>> War is about territory.

As I previously pointed out there have been innumerable wars about things other than territory. There have been wars over gold, women, religion, and because one side didn't like the looks of the other.

This claim, or suggestion, that wars can only be over "territory" is totally without any basis.

As you're fond of saying, you are making shit up.



To: combjelly who wrote (534170)12/3/2009 8:50:31 PM
From: TimF1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575093
 
War is about territory

Often, probably usually, but not always. Not being about territory doesn't imply "not a war", or "only metaphorically a war". For example if an organized armed force wants to wipe out another group, it can wage a war of extermination without territory being its motive.

Also in the longest range vaguest terms, it could reasonably be said that our conflict with Al Qaeda is about territory. They want their ideology to control the world, or at least all the areas the Muslims have ever ruled, or failing that as much as they can get.

A purely conventional war might be strategically, operationally and tactically about territory.

An insurgency, might only be strategically about territory.

A war against Al Qaeda would be vaguely about territory in the most long range (and IMO unrealistic on their part) grand strategy terms.



To: combjelly who wrote (534170)12/3/2009 9:00:10 PM
From: i-node1 Recommendation  Respond to of 1575093
 
>>> Some, like i-node, want to claim that military tribunals should be used because of this metaphorical use.

I have not made any such claim at all. We have the option to use military tribunals because the persons being tried are enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.