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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (26303)	12/3/2009 11:06:38 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 36918

The value or iron relative to the value of labor has gone down, so your efforts to recycle it might not be worth it any more (particularly if your talking only about your own return and not any positive externalities from the recycling, but possibly even if your including externalities). But aluminum is more expensive than iron. True very little is in each can, its still not exactly the most productive use of time (again only considering benefits that come back to you, not positive externalities), or something I'd try to force on someone, but overall it makes some sense in environmental terms. Including the cost and pollution from the collection process makes it debatable, but I think a less frequent pickup, only of the cans (rather than collecting cans, paper, plastic bottles, etc. once a week), would work out as a plus in purely environmental terms. The question then becomes is it worth it for you to take the time to throw the cans in to a recycling bin separate from the trash, and to store them for a couple of weeks or a month until the pickup. Those who feel good about recycling would answer yes, but those who don't care much, perhaps not.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (26303)	12/4/2009 2:40:39 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36918

Egypt used to have an excellent recycling program. The Coptic Christians picked up and through the trash. Egypt's crackdowns on them broke the system. Now they have hugh mounds of trash building up. The Coptic Christians were deriving their income from free materials. I don't recall now what the government did that made them stop: "And trash! Even India is cleaner than Egypt, and that says a lot. There were mounds of trash, piles of trash. Trash on the roofs, in the streets, on the sidewalks." travelpod.com