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To: Follies who wrote (23115)12/5/2009 11:17:12 AM
From: Cage Rattler1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 103300
 
I would enjoy reading the Oceanic temperature charts you have. Any chance of posting them?

Query -- if Obama had a legitimate Birth Certificate (NOT a Certificate of Birth) why then would a judge approve the motion for judicial hearing rather than dismissing the case? Please explain.



To: Follies who wrote (23115)12/5/2009 11:19:30 AM
From: SGJ1 Recommendation  Respond to of 103300
 
An English Translation Of Galileo's Recanting
From The Crime of Galileo by Giorgio de Santillana
(University of Chicago Press 1955), pp. 312-313
I, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, arraigned personally before this tribunal, and kneeling before you, Most Eminent and Reverend Lord Cardinals, Inquisitors-General against heretical depravity throughout the entire Christian commonwealth, having before my eyes and touching with my hands, the Holy Gospels, swear that I have always believed, do believe, and by God's help will in the future believe, all that is held, preached, and taught by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. But whereas — after an injunction had been judicially intimated to me by this Holy Office, to the effect that I must altogether abandon the false opinion that the sun is the centre of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the centre of the world, and moves, and that I must not hold, defend, or teach in any way whatsoever, verbally or in writing, the said false doctrine, and after it had been notified to me that the said doctrine was contrary to Holy Scripture — I wrote and printed a book in which I discuss this new doctrine already condemned, and adduce arguments of great cogency in its favour, without presenting any solution of these, and for this reason I have been pronounced by the Holy Office to be vehemently suspected of heresy, that is to say, of having held and believed that the Sun is the centre of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the centre and moves .

Therefore, desiring to remove from the minds of your Eminences, and of all faithful Christians, this vehement suspicion, justly conceived against me, with sincere heart and unfeigned faith I abjure, curse, and detest the aforesaid errors and heresies, and generally every other error, heresy, and sect whatsoever contrary to the said Holy Church, and I swear that in the future I will never again say or assert, verbally or in writing, anything that might furnish occasion for a similar suspicion regarding me; but that should I know any heretic, or person suspected of heresy, I will denounce him to this Holy Office, or to the Inquisitor or Ordinary of the place where I may be. Further, I swear and promise to fulfil and observe in their integrity all penances that have been, or that shall be, imposed upon me by this Holy Office. And, in the event of my contravening, (which God forbid) any of these my promises and oaths, I submit myself to all the pains and penalties imposed and promulgated in the sacred canons and other constitutions, general and particular, against such delinquents. So help me God, and these His Holy Gospels, which I touch with my hands.

I, the said Galileo Galilei, have abjured, sworn, promised, and bound myself as above; and in witness of the truth thereof I have with my own hand subscribed the present document of my abjuration, and recited it word for word at Rome, in the Convent of Minerva, this twenty-second day of June, 1633.

I, Galileo Galilei, have abjured as above with my own hand.

NB. Galileo's Recantation excludes two points included in the original formula for abjuration presented to him by the Cardinals. These two points, objected to by Galileo, would have had him declare that he was not a good Catholic and that he deceived others in publishing his book.



To: Follies who wrote (23115)12/5/2009 11:38:07 AM
From: longnshort2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
2 degrees a year, gee in 50 years it will be 190 plus, cool. Can't wait, will give a whole new meaning to Shusi



To: Follies who wrote (23115)12/5/2009 1:48:24 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 103300
 
No matter how many birth certificates we produce you're never satisfied.

You must have me confused with someone else, I've never changed what I said, I suggest you re-read the post I wrote, that very post to which you just responded... all real birth certificates have the name of the hospital and the delivering doctor on that document... yours has it, presuming you were born in the U.S., obama's is the ONLY one that doesn't have that information included... it's not a birth certificate, it's only a certificate of birth... don't be confused with the similar words, these are two very different documents... one is the certificate which obumble has never produced and which I'm sure you also do not have... the other is a secondary document which merely verifies that the individual was born... no one is disputing that obama was born, so a certificate of birth is meaningless here... don't swallow a politician's trick by presenting one thing as if it's the other document...

Oh and I also have a spreadsheet with a list of sea temperatures thats shows we are rising almost two degrees per year. Would you like a copy of that also?

If this is your attempt at sarcasm, I strongly suggest you drop it right now if you want to maintain a mature dialogue with me, I find it disrespectful... further sarcasm with me will win you a kick in the ass out the door, I advise you act accordingly...

GZ