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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (535784)12/11/2009 11:42:50 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577883
 
Eric, > Deniers have no agenda

I gotta admit, I'm receiving a monthly check from Big Oil, Rush Limbaugh, and FOXNews. ;-)

Tenchusatsu



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (535784)12/11/2009 12:14:10 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577883
 
"When you follow half truths, one sided charts of "evidence" - you could be labeled a zealot - ignoring all evidence contrary to your near religious belief in a theory."

Exactly. Which is precisely what the deniers are doing. Y'all are pretending like this is new. It isn't. Gore didn't start it. It didn't start in the 90s. Or the 1980s. And the evidence has been building for decades. To deny it is ignoring all the evidence contrary, along with your made up charts and half-truths.

"The middle warming period and the little ice age are not straw men - "

Sure they are. They happened. Both were regional in scope. And neither negated the overall slight cooling trend that had been experienced since the peak 10k or so years ago.

"Deniers have no agenda"

Nonsense. They do have an agenda. Most of the scientists have some link to Big Oil and many of the rest are politically fueled. Else it wouldn't break down so significantly across the political spectrum. It is a phenomena that is closely associated with American conservatives, they are a tiny minority in other countries and the rest of the American political spectrum.

"we have a large number of emails now that prove that beyond any doubt."

No we don't. We have a few that, if you twist them enough could be construed that way. But it takes a lot of twisting and turning to even get that far.