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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (536042)12/12/2009 1:24:07 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1584749
 
>>> As soon as the term "global warming" was changed to "climate change"

Absolutely. Anyone who hadn't already figured it out should have known immediately.

CJ is very fond of talking about "moving goalposts" but he conveniently overlooks this one. The globe isn't warming, so we'll just quite calling it global warming and start calling it climate change.

What could be more obvious? No danger of the climate NOT changing, so we're home free, right?



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (536042)12/12/2009 1:45:30 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1584749
 
"As soon as the term "global warming" was changed to "climate change" we had proof that something unscrupulous was going on."

Eric, "global warming", while true, also had the effect of drawing out conspiratorial doubters like you to chime in every time a cold snap hit. Thus the change.

Read this trilogy:

Start with this one:

amazon.com
"From Publishers Weekly
In this cerebral near-future novel, the first in a trilogy, Robinson (The Years of Rice and Salt) explores the events leading up to a worldwide catastrophe brought on by global warming. Each of his various viewpoint characters holds a small piece of the puzzle and can see calamity coming, but is helpless before the indifference of the politicians and capitalists who run America. Anna Quibler, a National Science Foundation official in Washington, D.C., sifts through dozens of funding proposals each day, while her husband, Charlie, handles life as a stay-at-home dad and telecommutes to his job as an environmental adviser to a liberal senator. Another scientist, Frank Vanderwal, finds his sterile worldview turned upside down after attending a lecture on Buddhist attitudes toward science given by the ambassador from Khembalung, a nation virtually inundated by the rising Indian Ocean. Robinson's tale lacks the drama and excitement of such other novels dealing with global climate change as Bruce Sterling's Heavy Weather and John Barnes's Mother of Storms, but his portrayal of how actual scientists would deal with this disaster-in-the-making is utterly convincing. Robinson clearly cares deeply about our planet's future, and he makes the reader care as well. FYI:Robinson's Mars trilogy (Red Mars, etc.) received one Nebula and two Hugo awards.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition."

It's a great read, fiction, but based on hard science predictions. Spells out what "climate change" means in human episodes you can understand.



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (536042)12/12/2009 3:38:31 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Respond to of 1584749
 
Well said. I would also like to add that the only "failures" they'll admit to are those that supposedly resulted from not being liberal enough. Everything else is the fault of the "other side."

Tenchusatsu