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To: Brumar89 who wrote (15496)	12/18/2009 5:35:59 PM
From: Bearcatbob	1 Recommendation Respond to of 86356

Ignore he/she/it.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (15496)	12/18/2009 7:10:24 PM
From: russet	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

The climate Apocalypse crowd are switching their story. Instead of telling us the minute thousandths of percent changes in CO2 concentration said to be observed by them, and modelled by them to cause imaginary temperature gains due to greenhouse effects (which they tell us will roast the planet and cause all the horsemen in "Revelations of the bible" to come and stomp the human race),... they now wish to present a new theory that the same minute changes of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere are going to chemically react with water and lower ocean pH to kill much of the life in the ocean. pH change is becoming the backup plan now as the temperature one appears to be full of fraudalent data, claims, theories and broken models. There must be a bogey man and the world must be going to hell. Then the research grant money will flow and those that spew CO2 in the air and get rich will be made to pay all their profits to those that spew CO2 in the air but didn't get rich,...or those that figure out how to charge us CO2 taxes will get rich and force everyone who does spew CO2 to pay all the bills.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (15496)	12/18/2009 11:44:31 PM
From: RetiredNow	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

Your theory is that natural causes are responsible for climate variation. Prove it to me. Show me the mean temperature and 3 sigma on either side and show me what natural processes are moving the temperatures up and down. Prove to me that those temperature variations are not moving outside the upper control limit. If you can't do this with specific numbers, your claim is based simply on your own imagination - iow you're making up your statistic based claim. This goes both ways, Brumar.