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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (23579)	12/22/2009 8:35:50 AM
From: Zincman	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 103300

Blows me away that the majority of the voters don't want health care reform as it stands now, nor cap and trade, but they are passing them anyway. Why the hell vote?

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (23579)	12/22/2009 1:02:04 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 103300

Re: "it was bought in shady backroom deals" Aren't all the big ones? (Remember how Bush finally pushed his Medicare part D bill through? All the arm-twisting and backroom deals... even keeping the vote OPEN in the House three hours past the legislative limit just so, one-by-one, they could take legislators into backrooms and offer them 'bennes' for their districts, or threats of denied funding, just so they could convince them into going back onto the House floor and changing the votes they had ALREADY CAST against the measure.... And all this for an entitlement expansion that was 100% added directly to the federal deficit... no offsetting spending cuts anywhere else, no revenues raised to pay for it, just nothing --- straight to the deficit.)