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To: Land Shark who wrote (27425)	12/24/2009 11:05:23 AM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

People who deny the existence of the MWP are Climate Scientologists.

To: Land Shark who wrote (27425)	12/24/2009 1:13:31 PM
From: Maurice Winn	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

You have undue faith in so-called scientists: <Scientists are trained and educated in universities. They are specialists in their fields of expertise. If we can't trust what they say, who can we trust? You and your denialist shills (the ignorant and ill-informed)????? Absolutely NOT. It's not a question of "faith", but a question of which group has more CREDIBILITY.> The intellectual horsepower to become a "scientist" is not great in most fields of science. Do not apply for Calabi Yau equations research and solid state physics without serious brain power. In science, as in all fields, there's a pecking order of talent. Climatologists are like stamp collectors. Unfortunately, climate is all about causal relationships and that's one of the weaknesses of people. Many so-called scientists are good at remembering facts, learning by rote, accumulating lots of nomenclature in latin. But as we know from Google, learning is not the same as intelligence. Google knows a lot of facts too, but is not much use at thinking though it increasingly does a passable job of associative connections. Confusing correlation and causation is normal among journalista and garden variety humans. So-called scientists do it too. The so-called science I have seen propounded by climatologists is a joke. They then overlay dodgy science with dishonesty. That's not science or good sense. It's fraud for pecuniary gain. The Copenhagen jamboree was a looters convention, not a scientific and economic meeting. Mqurice